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What does a JLP 10.0 EE equate to in US sizing on the 8000 last? Thanks.
 

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Originally Posted by glowell222
What does a JLP 10.0 EE equate to in US sizing on the 8000 last? Thanks.
Euro 10E on the JL 8000 last is the same as US 11D, based on my experience with 3 pairs on that last. Thus, I'd assume 10EE is the equivalent of US 11E.
 

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Originally Posted by JayJay
Euro 10E on the JL 8000 last is the same as US 11D, based on my experience with 3 pairs on that last. Thus, I'd assume 10EE is the equivalent of US 11E.

Agreed.
 

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Originally Posted by Style Guru
Are you sure that's an English sizing, the EE? Rarely you'll see an E+ but it's uncommon so I'll assume you mean E. An English 10 E would be a US 10.5 C. An English F is a US D (medium) You may find some English G's for wider feet but they're a US E. Not many wealthier men who buy these expensive shoes have wide feet so you maily have medium and slimmer widths. If the shoe was made for the US market then the size there, 10EE, would be a US 10 in a wide EE width.
English width sizing is all over the map. A JL E does not fit like a US C. I have JL 9 Ds on the 7000 last, they fit like a narrow US 1O D. The Es fit like a slightly wide D according to most who have the shoes. As to length, some English shoes you size down one whole size, with others size down 1/2. It all depends on the maker and the last. EDIT: And, oh hai Petrus!
 

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Originally Posted by KObalto
A JL E does not fit like a US C.
+1. My normal US size is 11D and all of my JLs (9 pairs) are Euro 10E on several different lasts, and fit me perfectly.
 

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Actually, the John Lobb E is indeed the rough equivalent of a US D. see link below for sizing chart. Ditto for C&J. With some other makers the F is a US D, but not with Lobb. http://us.estore.johnlobb.com/popup/shoes.html
Originally Posted by Style Guru
You're incorrect and I also suggest you get your feet measured professionally first since 90% of the guys on here are wearing the wrong size. And I've had almost every shoe you can imagine so I know the sizing well. http://www.brogueshoes.co.uk/Shoe_Size_Chart.html Herring has the sizes correct too and the widths are correct but for some reason someone messed up the US equivalents which are obviously wrong. I mentioned this to Adrian and hope he fixes it. But as you can see an E is a US C and an F is a US D http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/faq.php#2
 

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Originally Posted by Style Guru
You're incorrect and I also suggest you get your feet measured professionally first since 90% of the guys on here are wearing the wrong size. And I've had almost every shoe you can imagine so I know the sizing well.

Originally Posted by Gordon Geeko
Actually, the John Lobb E is indeed the rough equivalent of a US D. see link below for sizing chart. Ditto for C&J. With some other makers the F is a US D, but not with Lobb.

http://us.estore.johnlobb.com/popup/shoes.html


Gotcha, SG, Lobb is wrong about their sizing and you are right. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Originally Posted by Style Guru
You're telling me that you bought 9 pairs of Lobbs? Or was that 9 pairs of used stretched out Lobb's from ebay at $50 a shoe?

I've accumulated 9 pairs of Lobbs over a period of time purchased mostly from Lobb and NM. I don't buy used shoes.
 

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Originally Posted by Style Guru
You mean English not Euro. And how do you know your correct size is 11D? Many places Including BB satelite stores only carry a D width(NYC store carries all) so perhaps you just got into the habit of buying medium (D) width shoes when in fact a C would have been a better fit.
And btw, these little anecdotal stories mean nothing because we may not be comparing apples with apples.

Dude, I know my size and buy what fits me. YMMV.
 

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Originally Posted by Style Guru
Are you sure that's an English sizing, the EE? Rarely you'll see an E+ but it's uncommon so I'll assume you mean E.
An English 10 E would be a US 10.5 C. An English F is a US D (medium) You may find some English G's for wider feet but they're a US E.
Not many wealthier men who buy these expensive shoes have wide feet so you maily have medium and slimmer widths.
If the shoe was made for the US market then the size there, 10EE, would be a US 10 in a wide EE width.


Originally Posted by Style Guru
You're incorrect and I also suggest you get your feet measured professionally first since 90% of the guys on here are wearing the wrong size. And I've had almost every shoe you can imagine so I know the sizing well.
http://www.brogueshoes.co.uk/Shoe_Size_Chart.html

Herring has the sizes correct too and the widths are correct but for some reason someone messed up the US equivalents which are obviously wrong. I mentioned this to Adrian and hope he fixes it. But as you can see an E is a US C and an F is a US D
http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/faq.php#2


Originally Posted by Style Guru
You mean English not Euro. And how do you know your correct size is 11D? Many places Including BB satelite stores only carry a D width(NYC store carries all) so perhaps you just got into the habit of buying medium (D) width shoes when in fact a C would have been a better fit.
And btw, these little anecdotal stories mean nothing because we may not be comparing apples with apples.


Originally Posted by Style Guru
You're telling me that you bought 9 pairs of Lobbs? Or was that 9 pairs of used stretched out Lobb's from ebay at $50 a shoe?



I would NOT rely on any of this advice.
 

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Originally Posted by rebel222
I would NOT rely on any of this advice.

Really, because wealthy men don't have wide feet. Proven fact. Anyone who spouts that kind of iron-clad truth must be a completely reliable source of information.
 

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As far as I could research the issue, a new last is created in a certain size -- usually the most common one. Depending on the default sizing system, that's (US) 9 D, (EU) 42 and probably (UK) 8 E (or F, or 5, or whatever the default width designation is for the maker).

However, there are no absolute rules for the maker of the master last to obey to.

The master last is then scaled up and down according to certain rules, to create the lasts for all other sizes and width combinations.

Therefore, the width designation says nothing about the absolute ball girth or width.

It's just labeling the difference from the absolute width of the master last, which can be nearly anything. In other words, its just a so-called ordinal scale: All you can say is that A < B < C < D < E for a particular last made in the US system (and D < E < F < G < H for a particular last made in the UK system).
 

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Originally Posted by JayJay
+1. My normal US size is 11D and all of my JLs (9 pairs) are Euro 10E on several different lasts, and fit me perfectly.

I'm an 11D in us. My JLs are a 10E on the 7000 last, and fit perfect.
 

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