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John Lobb Jermyn III - but Quality???

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by goodlensboy, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. goodlensboy

    goodlensboy Senior member

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    Don't know if I should laugh or cry John Lobb Prestige Jermyn III No S or R, worn around 10 times for a couple of hours mainly inside the office [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  2. lee_44106

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    you should do neither.

    Apply some glue and glue the leather back on. That's how they do it at the Lobb factory anyway.
     
  3. rebel222

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    Not a defect. That happens to closed channel soles sometimes. It's normal. I'd get some contact cement or "Shoe Goo."
     
  4. JonathanCWalker

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    I would be crying but like the guys are saying give a glue back together and should be all ok
     
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    There seems to be a bit more going on than meets the eye. The channeled sole openning can happen and may mean insufficient use of cement at the factory or poor technique. Esasily repaired though.

    More imprtantly however is the small seperation of sole to welt. You can see a gap or step and this may be caused by loose or poor tension of the outsole stitching. Ordinarily both should behave as one.
     
  6. rebel222

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    60% of my welted shoes separate between the welt and sole like this. EG, Lobb, and C&J all included. That is also a non-issue.
     
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  7. JonathanCWalker

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    How do you like the shoes apart from this issue?
     
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    For only 10 wears it looks like that whole area of the sole near the toe is worn more than I would think.

    Maybe consider flush metal toe plates?
     
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    send the shoes to Nelson for repairing and have them add flush mounted toe plates

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  10. Shikar

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    Similar problem with 2 pairs of new JL bought at the Houston NM store late last year. Shoe Goo worked and shoes are alive and well.

    Regards.
    PS. B. Nelson just added metal toe plates to 12 pairs of my shoes so i wont face this situation again!:slayer:
     
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  11. goodlensboy

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    Clearly the most sublime RTW shoe ever.... and RTG (ready to glue) and RTFP (ready to flush plate)

    I actually did not expect this from a $ 1,700 beauty
     
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    That's too bad, but good on you for not worrying about it.

    Personally, I would rather all my welted shoes be in the 40% that don't have this going on. I would also expect more prsetigious shoes to behave better here.

    My father, had roughly a dozen well worn Dacks and Church shoes when he retired a decade ago and only one had a little of this going on!

    It happens but maybe moreso now than ever (although it shouldn't)
     
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    I, too, am tough on the toes but no Prestige shoe should look like this unless you've been swimming in them. I'd be curious as to what JL has to say about this. Send them the pics and report back.
     
  14. JonathanCWalker

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    Looks fantastic but I'm a G&G man but very tempted on trying a pair out next time i'm in JL

     
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    +1
     
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    I dont really care what others are saying re glue and sticking the bugga back down, I'd be royally pissed if that happened to me after just 10 wears !!!! Come on fellas thats not right surely to god on a pair of JL's ??? I have plenty of GY Welted shoes from all different manufacturers and NONE have shown this after just 10 wears and to be frank none have shown this at all. Get them back to JL end of !!
    (Is it just me or does the sole at the toe look twisted in that first pic??) :lookaround:
     
  17. JonathanCWalker

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    I'd be sending them back to JL if it was me and see what they say about it. If he wants a quick fix id say glue but it can't be the best option.

     
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    I can understand your disapointment, but what they do in JL is also just glue it.
    Either you glue it yourself, or sent it back to them and they glue it.
    You can say whatever you want to the JL sales, but I don't think it has any effect though.
     
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    Totally get that but I'm afraid I'd want JL to do the repair not me, and maybe bringing it to their attention might avert my next pair doing the same. Frankly i may be dreaming here but I'd expect more from JL Prestige especially at their price point and hope they would too !! I would dearly like to think that by buying one of the supposed "top end" manufacturers shoes i wouldnt be sticking soles down ffs especially after just 10 wears. Come on this just isnt me is it ??? I get the odd bit of "patina" or the odd scratch you can polish over but that ???????
     
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  20. Joker Man

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    In 50 years I've never had that happen to a shoe. It looks like that thin piece of cardboard they put on the soles to hide the stiching came off. Just rip it off you don't need it and in the future stick to high quality shoes like Cole Haan.
     
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