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John Lobb Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dddrees, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. clee1982

    clee1982 Distinguished Member

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    What does black museum calf mean?
     


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    I think it was an Ilcea leather burnish type...
     


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  4. clee1982

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    Yea, but what does burnish black mean, black on black patina...?
     


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    I thought your inquiry might have been snark, but the black museum leather is suppose to have similar burnishing/treatment like their other colors. Maybe someone has good sun light pics of this. I made sure to specifically call it burnishing, and not patina, as to not incur the wrath of DW...
     


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    You can see it a little in my picture

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    So a bit grey and navy in there?
     


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    gyasih Distinguished Member

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    It's not solid black, a little cloudy
     


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    Like you just put wax on before brushing?
     


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    JL Keats in black museum calf. Black, brown, cloudy gray, purple..

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    JL used to offer a variety of museum colors including brown, light brown, black, red, etc. Leather treatment gives the shoe a something of a "distressed refined" look
     


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    All my black museum shoes look a little different in different light - the Wallace shown below definitely have a little navy in certain light, the only black museum shoes I have that exhibit this.

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    Burnishing is when leather workers put wax on the leather or leather edges, use a hot iron to iron those wax into the fiber, sealing the leather and making the color darker.

    Black museum is not like burnishing. The effect is created at the dying process at the tannery, prior to glazing on the top coat. It is still dyed through except some areas have less dye pigment than the others, for a 3D depth effect similar to when you apply dozens different coating of waxes in different colors, except its permanent.
     


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    Interesting. Seem that they did not skive the edge of the toe cap and the vamp...
     


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