John Lobb Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dddrees, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. sevenfoldtieguy

    sevenfoldtieguy Senior member

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    ^ The color on the Lopez is great!!
     
  2. Nikola

    Nikola Senior member

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    Thanks @sevenfoldtieguy .. I would also prefer a Dainite sole for boots. Pity JL decided to go with the November sole for their boot line. I think November is good enough for derby and loafers, but boot needs to be on Dainite Studded or even better Ridgeway sole.
     
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    What's the actual difference between Dainite sole and November sole? They look very similar...
     
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    besides the shade of the dots, I find Dainite more dense (maybe rigid) than JL's version which appears to be more pliable.
     
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    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The two main rubber soles in English shoemaking have been "Dainite" by the 'Harboro Rubber Company' and "Commando" by 'Itshide'. Itshide have (recently?) a 'Commando Club'rubber sole in their program which is virtually the same design as the Dainite sole. (Maybe the copyright for the Dainite design has expired.)

    http://www.dainite.com/flash.html
    http://www.daviesodell.co.uk/itshide.asp

    The commando sole uses a harder rubber than the Dainite sole; it is possible the Club sole uses the same hard rubber. A number of shoe manufacturers get the rubber sole cast with their company's name/logo (Church's, C&J). So it is only a small step for JL/Northampton to have their Dainite-type sole modelled to their design, Obviously someone decided they wanted the round studs replaced by octagonal ones (maybe the designer liked the AP 'Royal Oak' watch). JL also have/had a Commando-type sole where the design of the ribs is formed by the JL logo).

    In all probability, the "November" sole comes from either Itshide or Harboro Rubber.If you pay for the required moulds (in all the sizes) and are willing to order at least the minimum order required, you can have any design you fancy.
     
  6. sevenfoldtieguy

    sevenfoldtieguy Senior member

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    I agree.
     
  7. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    Thanks. Was just interested. Tooling for plastic/rubbet ain't exactly expensive but if there's difference in material recipe I guess dainite and November sole could be from different companies.
     
  8. Mark Lee Jin Yi

    Mark Lee Jin Yi Senior member

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    Hi guys, just purchased the new Jodhpur II yesterday because i couldn't resist how beautiful they looked. They are on the 7000 last and are the nicest cut jodhpurs i've seen IMO.

    Will post some pics if you guys are interested later on.
     
  9. thebeebs

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    Yes please!
     
  10. Mark Lee Jin Yi

    Mark Lee Jin Yi Senior member

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    These are what i've taken so far, I know they aren't very good, but i will take more when i have the time.
     
  11. Nikola

    Nikola Senior member

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    Is that a Dark Brown Museum Calf?
     
  12. Mark Lee Jin Yi

    Mark Lee Jin Yi Senior member

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    yup! absolutely.
     
  13. Nikola

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    Nice. I am looking at my next pair of William II in that color, though Parisian Brown on your William II is tempting.
     
  14. Mark Lee Jin Yi

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    What colour is your existing William II in? In fact, if i ever buy another pair of Lobbs, it'd be the William II in new gold museum calf.
     
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    Cleav Senior member Dubiously Honored Moderator

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