John Lobb Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dddrees, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. lasbar

    lasbar Senior member

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    In my opinion and many others they are...:)
     


  2. Nikola

    Nikola Senior member

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    Would really like to see how many would choose a 180 Weston over John Lobb Lopez based solely on look.
     


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    The 180 is an icon model and pure legend..
     


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    .......and the epitome of BCBG!
     


  5. lasbar

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    :nodding:

    Your view on that particular battle?

    180 vs Lopez
     


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    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I probably come down on the side of the 180. I hate 'elegant' loafers.

    Not that the "Lopez" is such a precious little number. It has a decent-sized apron. I hate tiny aprons, long toe type of loafers.
     


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    2-1
     


  8. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    I tend to stay away from those 'elegant' loafers as well. So none of those Corthay or G&G stuff.

    I like Lopez style more; I don't like the position of 180's apron.

    Lopez
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    JMW 180
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    2-2!
     


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    Of the two, I would vote Lopez. But there are other JL loafers I prefer to the Lopez.
     


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    I might lose that one but we're on a JL appreciation page..:)
     


  11. jujujoo11

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    Does anyone know if John Lobb accepts return because of a defect on MTO shoes? I got a pair but the stitching from right to left pair wasn't lined properly, enough to make a difference in my eye. Paying $1900 for shoes to find out its not up to par feels disappointing. I know from hand made items there will be flaws, but should I accept it? Or return it and wait another 5 months.
     


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    Pictures?
     


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    I've returned MTO shoes with a defect. I did a MTO from Neiman Marcus for some monkstraps. After about 5 wears, the leather tore. The tear was less than 1cm big. I told my SA at NM and he got me a replacement pair.
     


  14. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Made-to-order doesn't mean the shoe is hand made, or hand lasted, or...if it came fro a company manufacturing RTW shoes...that anything was done differently except the prep on the last and perhaps a swap out of leathers.

    So discrepancies should not be tolerated anymore than they would be tolerated in RTW.

    Having said that, yes, a manufactured shoe may be more consistent in terms of stitching and the like...after all a machine is doing the work and machines aren't subject to the frailties of humans. But just because something is handmade doesn't mean it's going to have flaws as a matter of course. Hand makers try very hard to avoid those flaws--it's not a given, IOW. And hand makers have more to lose if they pass off deeply flawed work.

    In any case, I'd return them.
     
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    [​IMG]

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    I took it to a cobbler who told me it was miss stitched and he refused to work on it and told me to return it. There is a crease you can see. It's not really noticeable and most may never notice it but I notice it and when I flex my foot ankle it somewhat becomes more noticeable. From what Im told and what I see, there is a gap between the seam and the overlapping leather. Even though it would be ok to wear, I don't want to have problems down the line, seeing the leather can stretch. The other pair is not like this.
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    I know I'm being a stuck up now, the stiching is not even. I know I'm nitpicking here, But looking at the shoes live its more noticeable. And once you notice it is the only thing you notice.
     


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