Jobs in China.

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by Jokerman, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    Yup, exactly. That's how/why I learned Mandarin.
     


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    Assimilating by marrying someone is basically what I did too... but I work in a company with 40% foreigers too and most of them are good guys. Can we agree that most of the above comments generally apply only to the English teachers and not to people working in most other industries here? Based on my observation in Beijing, English teacher ratio is about 90-95% trash vs normal people, but the professionals are only about 15-20% trash.
     


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    I strongly believe that calling another person "trash" is not very "stylish".
     


  4. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    Yeah but being frank both saves time and rustles jimmies.
     


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    Trash, FILTH, creepers, degenerates, sexpats, whatever. But these terms aren't really all that inaccurate to describe the type of guys who come to a foreign country, sleep with their students, hire underage hookers, and get pissed off at the locals because they don't speak English. If you're here then you must know the type, and last month or so it was a big issue in the media when some British guy got piss drunk and tried to rape a Chinese girl on the side of the road.

    I used to know a few guys like this when I first came to China and hung out with that crowd since they were the easiest group of English speaking people I could find. My network is quite a bit better now though, thank god...
     


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    That's often expat communities in all countries. I try to avoid them.
     


  7. Eason

    Eason Bicurious Racist

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    My brother posted this on his fb, copied from a Chinese law commentator's blog:

    The last two paragraphs are right on the money. My only addendum is that I don't know why it took him 15 years to figure this out, it took me 1.5. I moved to China right after the Olympics thinking everything would be improving; instead everything deteriorated.
     


  8. MikeDT

    MikeDT Senior member

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    It only took me a few days to realise that Beijing is not the city for me. It's the place where the big international airport is, and that's pretty much it. I do have some Chinese friends in Beijing, but they'll usually come and visit me, not the other way round.

    I started in Zhuhai, hanging with other expats, quickly realised that many of them are sex mad, drunken wasters, fucking their students or anything else that was convenient. Moved onto Hangzhou for a year at a good school. Enjoyed my time there. And now I'm in Xilinhot, Inner Mongolia. been here almost two years, and intend to stay for the foreseeable future. I'm quite happy to live without Ikea, Starbucks and Walmart, and in a place where I feel completely safe, respected and air is still clean. and has plenty of fake Apple Stores..LOL. I can even leave my bicycle unlocked, and know there's a very high likelihood that it will still be there when I come back. Certainly can't do that in the UK. AFAIK there's only one other expat in Xilinhot, and he's not a sex crazed drunk.
     
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    Teachers are respected in China.
     


  10. MikeDT

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    Oh it's really drummed into students, love and respect your teachers. There's Teacher's Day, propaganda, etc. The level of student discipline at my current state middle school was a real eye-opener when I first arrived.

    We've got this, five stories high on the school building.
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    "I want to be an amazing Chinese,"

    That's the view from my bedroom window..
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    "Love your teacher."

    BTW we got the new term starting on Monday, and all new students will be doing two weeks military drill and training.

    School campus last year, students doing drill with the PLA.
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    However things can get interesting occasionally
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13592514
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    I know most of them in that BBC picture. Those very same students starting asking me in early August 2011, what the hell was going on in my own country.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_Riots
     
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    When was this/what school was it? My friends from there, going to visit next year.
     


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    I have several friends who were teachers in North America (NA) and UK who are now teachers in China and NE Asia. All have been astonished by the level of respect accorded to teachers... and even uni students. To be educated is to be human. Of course this is a sweeping generalization, but in NA and UK the students abuse the teachers and schools. Not only do they study more, but in Asia students also perform janitorial duty by actually sweeping and mopping their classrooms and picking up the litter from the school yard. If you're responsible for cleaning it you're less inclined to vandalize it. Asia ain't perfect, but the appreciation for education is genuine.
     
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    Interesting thread.

    I have been in the States for about 11 years and is moving to Beijing to work starting next month.

    I guess it's because I grew up in Taiwan so that I find Beijing to be somewhat familiar to me, at least to the extend of living environment. It really assembles the old Taiwan but with all the modern buildings.

    I speak fluent Chinese and English and I hope this will make me a little different.

    I also agree that majority of the Chinese nowadays in the big cities (this is the part that I know of) are only looking at money instead of anything else, which is kind of sad, but that's exactly what I expected especially when you have billions of other people competing with you.
     


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    Gateway Language Village, it's a private rather expensive English only training school. Most students are under-graduate or post-graduate level.
    http://www.glvchina.com/
    Alibaba and Tencent often send their staff there for English training. I can definately recommend this school as been on the level and OK. I was there 2010. And the teachers don't fuck the students AFAIK.
     
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    Yeh, the school is always immaculate. Students are cleaning the windows and everything. Although sometimes I do think the students are doing too much, school day starts at 6.30, lessons start at 7.30, day finishes 21.30 after evening self study, 6 days a week, Monday to Saturday, 3 hour lunch break though. I'm sure the whole curriculum aimed at getting good results in exams.

    Bad eyesight can real problem for many students in China though. I've just completed a 4 week English summer camp at another middle school in a neighbouring town. A couple of the students just couldn't see and read my Powerpoints and blackboard, even though they sat near the front.

    The school has just completed a massive redecoration and refurbishment this summer, inside and out, ready for their diamond anniversary (60 years) next year. It's actually a Mongolian school, with mainly Mongolian rather than Han students. So I'm sure that means special status and real money is spent on the school, same seems to go for other state schools in Xilinhot and Inner Mongolia. I've visited other state schools in Hebei, Guangdong and Zhejiang provinces, and some of them are just horrible, nothing works, student punctually is very poor, etc. I had a couple of American friends come to visit last year, who'd been teaching at a Hebei middle school, They were actually shocked when they saw my school, "This school is beautiful!"...one of them said.
     
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