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Job Applications

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by CYstyle, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. CYstyle

    CYstyle Distinguished Member

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    Do you guys get annoyed when doing a job application?

    Pretty much every company requires you to create an account; some accounts require a username, others automatically use your email as your username.

    Then passwords some require you to have special [email protected]#$% etc, be of a certain length, letters and numbers, at least 1 capital letters.

    If you forget your password and reset it, some don't allow you to use the last 3 pw's.

    Honestly, there's nothing really private on the account. It's more or less your resume and cover letter.

    Now if you found the job via a job board like Careerbuilder or the hundreds out there, and you click apply they often reroute you to their own account creation page, where you first register with them before leading you to the actual job application. The registration process usually collections your resume, then education and employment history etc.

    You could bypass this and go straight to the principal company's website, but some don't allow you to see the company until you create your account.

    Now onto the application:

    First Step is usually you upload your resume:
    Some take nearly every format out there .rtf .doc .docx .pdf etc. Other's may only take a couple formats. So now you'll need your resume in at least 2 formats, which means any time you edit, you may need to update both.

    They are supposed to have a program that will strip the info off the uploaded resume and populate the fields in the actual application: which then always comes out fucked up.

    So then you have to manually copy and paste.

    History 1: copy paste copy paste etc: Add history

    BUT, that would be too easy. Some places where you have a description of your job duties etc. limit you to 300 characters.

    Some companies require you to look up Employer through their limited database. If not in there you select like not in list or something.

    Some require your salary at the job, others will also make you click on the calender and select your start and finish date at the company requiring a day.

    Then some require you to put your supervisors name, and contact info, and or address of the job

    Then you have to click move history up or down to manually move each history 1 step at a time, because the programmer didn't think that they could have simplified it by ordering them by date automatically, and then if the user wants to they can manually switch things around they will be able to.

    Finish the app up with your education and move on to the next step

    Ok stay with me; nearly done:
    After doing all that crap you then do one of those tax credit surveys: Gender/Ethnicity/Veteran etc.

    Some also have a small questionnaire regarding how many years of experience have you had with certain skills.

    FINALLY you can SUBMIT (unless it's a retail job)
    Sometimes 4
    For retail jobs(good thing done with that chapter in life): They require you to take some aptitude tests like 100 questions of:

    Disagree:Slightly Disagree:Neither Agree or Disagree:Agree:Strongly Agree.

    Why even have an application vs just using the resume? Now after all your hard work some companies will have a script to send out a rejection email to all applicants they deem unqualified.

    A recruiter will usually be the first point of contact with qualified applicants. It's just a phone screen of the same BS behavioral questions that lasts 30 minutes. Not a big deal. Don't really know what they've learned. Well I guess some people fail the behavioral questions and get screened out.
    At larger companies recruiters usually work solely for that company to recruit for all their open positions. At others they outsource this to headhunting firms. The outsourced guys are scum. They flood all career websites with fake jobs to collect resumes.

    But in all honesty the majority of recruiters have no technical knowledge of the job and the requirements and also since they don't even really work at the company even the inhouse ones, they don't even know behaviorally what the company wants.

    I wonder sometimes if all these long tedious steps are barriers to stop qualified great workers from joining a company. Because after you get an offer, and you can't help but smile and feel good. You start working at a company and then you realize your coworkers are complete retards. Then you wonder how they got their jobs. Which part of the process failed to screen them out?

    Anyhow back to step 6
    After the useless phone screen with the recruiter, they'll setup a phone interview with the hiring manager. Most of the time this phone screen will be a nearly identical repeat behavioral shit that you just did with the recruiter, although it may include a couple technical questions. 30 minutes to 1 hour later you guys hang up the phone and then you have to wait for the recruiter to contact you back about the next step.

    Step 7 If all goes well with that phone screen. You may be invited for an onsite interview. Some companies require a couple phone screens (ughh) so you have to repeat step 6.
    Step 7 at Large companies may do a powerday format. They bring you in early, the receptionist will give you a visitor badge. Offer you something to drink. And then you pretty much interview all day with different people. They pretty much all ask you variations of the same question, then you get hammered with technical questions, business cases etc.

    Step 8
    Now you have to wait for the recruiter to give you an update. Pretty much offer or no offer. If you got an offer great! if not some people will at least be nice enough to contact you back with a rejection letter email. It's nice because then you know and can move on with other interviews etc. Some companies take foreverrrr to decide on a candidate. So you may not hear anything for a couple weeks and just assume they went with someone else. Then you get a offer status update; maybe they need another interview with more higher ups. ugh.

    I mean for those who are unemployed and have nothing better to do it's still annoying but not a big deal. For those with jobs and are searching all these random vacation days, or shifting of schedules and your boss knows whats up.

  2. grit

    grit Senior Member

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    Oct 14, 2010
    San Francisco
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