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JM Weston appreciation thread

andreasky

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Does anyone own Hunt Derby to report about their fit? What about their leather sole in terms of durability and when it rains?
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My brother in law owns them and they age beautifully. Great gunboat shoes but I will never wear them in the rain, you will ruin them (uppers and outsoles) . Get a great pair of custom grade Church's in patent leather for those days. Specially with JMW I will try them on first...size is tricky and price really high. I just pulled the trigger with La Cambre, but I know my size as I tried them on in their London store. Weston owns tannerie Bastin which produces one of the best leather outsoles out there.
 
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Thank you. Hunt Derby seems a great shoe.
I use Saphir Medaille D'Or Pommadier Natural cream to protect the upper of my calf leather shoes by Tricker's and it works well under rain. I thought the same for Hunt Derby by JM Weston.
It's a pity that Hunt has no rubber sole (at least as RTW). I thought the leather sole could withstand rain after applying some waterproof product (like mink oil).
 

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Patent leather is the best for the rain, then you have grain leather, but JMW top aniline does not deserve much rain. Keep your mink oil or sno-seal products for some other shoe/boot.
 

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Wanted this La Cambre for almost 3 decades. Time has come and I can not be more happy!! . I am so glad it mounts leather outsoles...Enjoy the pics!.
 

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Wanted this La Cambre for almost 3 decades. Time has come and I can not be more happy!! . I am so glad it mounts leather outsoles...Enjoy the pics!.
Those are lovely chelsea boots. Good for you for finally getting them after a 30 year wait!
 

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Those are lovely chelsea boots. Good for you for finally getting them after a 30 year wait!
The point is that I was not prepare to wear Chelseas until now. I loved to see them (Chelseas in general and specially La Cambre) in pics, but I thought they were not made for me. Now I have gotten two pairs in one week. I hope to kick them out easily.
 

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They are ready to sleep until the spring. IMG_20201020_174240.jpgIMG_20201020_174228.jpg
 

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I wonder if anyone could offer a little insight on the JM Weston loafers listed on Mr Porter?

Specifically these two:

https://www.mrporter.com/en-gb/mens/product/jm-weston/shoes/loafers/180-moccasin-leather-loafers/29012654081993864

https://www.mrporter.com/en-gb/mens/product/jm-weston/shoes/loafers/180-moccasin-leather-penny-loafers/9679066509523414

- do you think they're the same? I can't tell the difference...

As for sizing, I've read the article on Die, Workwear, and from what I understand, Mr Porter might be (still?) listing the Weston sizing as UK sizing, meaning that one should be sizing down from what's listed (a whole or a half size).

To make matters more complicated, one of those claim to have UK sizes that should be true to size, the other doesn't mention what sizing they're using, but that one should size down a half size (which I guess makes some sense if they're actually going by the Weston sizing).

So, in your best guess, do you think these two models are actually the same, and - being pretty much a true UK 8½ - my best bet would be to go with the one listed as a UK 8½, or from the other listing, a size 8?

Thanks for any help!
 

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Wanted this La Cambre for almost 3 decades. Time has come and I can not be more happy!! . I am so glad it mounts leather outsoles...Enjoy the pics!.
I beg for little sizing help. What last is that and how does it fit compared to JL 7000 last and C&J 337 last. Thank you in advance.
 

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I wonder if anyone could offer a little insight on the JM Weston loafers listed on Mr Porter?

Specifically these two:

https://www.mrporter.com/en-gb/mens/product/jm-weston/shoes/loafers/180-moccasin-leather-loafers/29012654081993864

https://www.mrporter.com/en-gb/mens/product/jm-weston/shoes/loafers/180-moccasin-leather-penny-loafers/9679066509523414

- do you think they're the same? I can't tell the difference...

As for sizing, I've read the article on Die, Workwear, and from what I understand, Mr Porter might be (still?) listing the Weston sizing as UK sizing, meaning that one should be sizing down from what's listed (a whole or a half size).

To make matters more complicated, one of those claim to have UK sizes that should be true to size, the other doesn't mention what sizing they're using, but that one should size down a half size (which I guess makes some sense if they're actually going by the Weston sizing).

So, in your best guess, do you think these two models are actually the same, and - being pretty much a true UK 8½ - my best bet would be to go with the one listed as a UK 8½, or from the other listing, a size 8?

Thanks for any help!
They seem to be the same to me, but I am with my mobile phone and tired. Contact Mr Porter about models and sizing. I have bought mines in the store and La Cambre, through this site here www.24s (the site of LVMH).
 

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I beg for little sizing help. What last is that and how does it fit compared to JL 7000 last and C&J 337 last. Thank you in advance.
Hi Laufer, my pleasure. I am always in between sizes: 8.5uk and 9 uk (most of my shoes) . My feet have high instep and a normal/wide~ish ball.
La Cambre (9D) has a different last to 180 loafer and Demichase (9D),the only ones I own.
For your reference :
~JL does not fit me well. I am a 9 E in 7000 last but does not suit me well enough.
~I wear 9 uk in Audley 337 CJ. Good fit.
~I understand you have Carmina. Take same size as Rain. I would say is a bit less relaxing in the ball (more snugh), and more relaxing in the toe area. La Cambre has a mid-high instep.
I wear 8.5 uk in EG 606. Perfect fit. 9F in GG MH 71. 42.5 Vass P2 (42.5in F is to tight). Alden Abeerden 9.5 E US.
I think in this kind of bootie/model, widht D is good enough if you have normal/wide~ish girth in the ball+instep. Should you have further questions, feel free to contact me. Hope this help.
 

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Hi Laufer, my pleasure. I am always in between sizes: 8.5uk and 9 uk (most of my shoes) . My feet have high instep and a normal/wide~ish ball.
La Cambre (9D) has a different last to 180 loafer and Demichase (9D),the only ones I own.
For your reference :
~JL does not fit me well. I am a 9 E in 7000 last but does not suit me well enough.
~I wear 9 uk in Audley 337 CJ. Good fit.
~I understand you have Carmina. Take same size as Rain. I would say is a bit less relaxing in the ball (more snugh), and more relaxing in the toe area. La Cambre has a mid-high instep.
I wear 8.5 uk in EG 606. Perfect fit. 9F in GG MH 71. 42.5 Vass P2 (42.5in F is to tight). Alden Abeerden 9.5 E US.
I think in this kind of bootie/model, widht D is good enough if you have normal/wide~ish girth in the ball+instep. Should you have further questions, feel free to contact me. Hope this help.
Thank you so much. My best fitting last is C&J 337 so now I have a pretty good idea how JM Weston La Cambre will fit me.
 

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My brother in law owns them and they age beautifully. Great gunboat shoes but I will never wear them in the rain, you will ruin them (uppers and outsoles) . Get a great pair of custom grade Church's in patent leather for those days. Specially with JMW I will try them on first...size is tricky and price really high. I just pulled the trigger with La Cambre, but I know my size as I tried them on in their London store. Weston owns tannerie Bastin which produces one of the best leather outsoles out there.
That’s not true. Good leather will not be ruined because of rain. These are country shoes and will be perfectly fine after some rain. In fact they will start looking much better than new after some use. Here is a pair of my demi chasse after few years of wearing, I wore them in the rain quite often. I imagine Chasse will age similar if not better.

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shirtandty

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I wonder if anyone could offer a little insight on the JM Weston loafers listed on Mr Porter?

Specifically these two:

https://www.mrporter.com/en-gb/mens/product/jm-weston/shoes/loafers/180-moccasin-leather-loafers/29012654081993864

https://www.mrporter.com/en-gb/mens/product/jm-weston/shoes/loafers/180-moccasin-leather-penny-loafers/9679066509523414

- do you think they're the same? I can't tell the difference...

As for sizing, I've read the article on Die, Workwear, and from what I understand, Mr Porter might be (still?) listing the Weston sizing as UK sizing, meaning that one should be sizing down from what's listed (a whole or a half size).

To make matters more complicated, one of those claim to have UK sizes that should be true to size, the other doesn't mention what sizing they're using, but that one should size down a half size (which I guess makes some sense if they're actually going by the Weston sizing).

So, in your best guess, do you think these two models are actually the same, and - being pretty much a true UK 8½ - my best bet would be to go with the one listed as a UK 8½, or from the other listing, a size 8?

Thanks for any help!
Funny you ask because a while back I asked them about these two pairs and the response i got was:

"As the J.M. Weston 180 Moccasin Leather Penny Loafers have a lighter tanning on the leather inside of the shoe and a lighter tan on the calf leather on the outside of the shoe than the 180 Moccasin Leather Loafers, this is the reason why they are listed as being two different items."
 

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