JL or Mantellassi?

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  1. Urban Warrior

    Urban Warrior Senior member

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    I for one really like Mantellassi shoes and find the high end Fatte a Mano comparable to Santoni's FAM. They can also be picked up for a real steal sometimes. When the Paramus NJ NM had last call a few month's back many of the pairs were on sale for $250.
    My in laws brought back from Italy this pair for $150 US
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  2. Roger

    Roger Senior member

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    Urban Warrior, those are very, very nice shoes--obviously of high quality--and the $150 price is surreal. I particularly like monkshoes. The only small nit I would pick with these shoes is that the sole extension is a little more than I normally like--although I should hasten to add that I've had this reduced in other shoes by an ace cobbler. When I look at the upper part of the soles of these shoes, I can't see any stitching, although it's possible that it's just very close to the upper and not readily visible. Are these Blake-stitched? My Mantellassis are. If not, are they welted? Or perhaps Blake/Rapid stitched (although that would show up as stitching on the outside of the top of the sole).
     
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    why are there so many mantellassis for sale online at discounted prices?
     
  4. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Senior member

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    Not many people know about the shoes and the stlye of those Mantellassi shoes are not for those general public.
     
  5. Urban Warrior

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    Roger they are not Blake stitched... They appear to be welted...
     
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    "Not many people know about the shoes and the stlye of those Mantellassi shoes are not for those general public."

    so are every other brand except the very well-distributed and commercialized ones (sf, gucci, cole-haan, kcole...) but you won't find santoni being peddled in some site. i don't mean any disrespect to mantellassi, and i am actually pondering on buying a pair on stp. i was just wondering on this phenomenon.
     
  7. mensimageconsultant

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    The shoes [the Mantellassis on STP] are attention-getting and lengthen the foot. So, on a man with large feet, they might produce a flashy (or "pimp") look.
     
  8. Roger

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    The shoes are attention-getting and lengthen the foot. So, on a man with large feet, they might produce a flashy (or "pimp") look.
    That makes absolutely no sense. You've got to be kidding.
     
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    The shoes [the Mantellassis on STP] are attention-getting and lengthen the foot. So, on a man with large feet, they might produce a flashy (or "pimp") look.

    huh?
    "attention-getting"? "flashy"? "pimp"?
    are we looking at the same shoes? They're none of the above [​IMG]
     
  10. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Senior member

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    it might seem like "a lot" are out there, but in reality, given the quantity of shoes made by Mantellassi throughout the world, a very small % are available online at discount prices. i know that i carry in excess of 100 right now and I haven't seen anyone other than STP with any kind of quantity and i don't know how many they carry. it doesn't mean they aren't in demand (see # of Kiton 7-folds online right now). just an observation from a SM lover
     
  12. Roger

    Roger Senior member

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    How about Moreschi shoes?

    http://www.sierratradingpost.com/i/7...hoes++(For+Men)

    FWIW, in my opinion, these shoes have been kind of wrecked by the squared-off toe form, giving them a vaguely Kenneth Cole look. They do have some nice features--the wholecut aspect, the wingtip pattern done via perfs rather than an extra piece of leather--but I think they're badly overpriced even at the $500 STP is selling them for. Moreschi shoes are well-regarded for the most part, but are not, in my opinion, worth that kind of price. Another thing I don't particularly like is the faux Norvegese look, achieved by taking what appears to be a standard Goodyear-welted shoe and adding the decorative stitching into the uppers just above the sole. For me, I'd want that stitching only on a genuine pair of Norvegese welted/stitched shoes.
     
  13. MilanoStyle

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    FWIW, in my opinion, these shoes have been kind of wrecked by the squared-off toe form, giving them a vaguely Kenneth Cole look. They do have some nice features--the wholecut aspect, the wingtip pattern done via perfs rather than an extra piece of leather--but I think they're badly overpriced even at the $500 STP is selling them for. Moreschi shoes are well-regarded for the most part, but are not, in my opinion, worth that kind of price. Another thing I don't particularly like is the faux Norvegese look, achieved by taking what appears to be a standard Goodyear-welted shoe and adding the decorative stitching into the uppers just above the sole. For me, I'd want that stitching only on a genuine pair of Norvegese welted/stitched shoes.

    So, you think that's a fake Norvegese stitch? Hmm ... If I can only see the shoes... But, I think shoes look pretty cool IMO. The shoes reminds me more of Berluti than Kenneth Cole. I have not seen Kenneth Cole make toe shape like that.
     
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    So, you think that's a fake Norvegese stitch? Hmm ... If I can only see the shoes... But, I think shoes look pretty cool IMO. The shoes reminds me more of Berluti than Kenneth Cole. I have not seen Kenneth Cole make toe shape like that.
    Well, they are far nicer than Kenneth Cole alright, but the squared-off toe (even though the squaring-off occurs further out onto the toe than you'd see in a KC shoe) suggests to me that Moreschi may be hoping to capture that constituency with these shoes. Although I can't be sure of this without actually seeing the shoes, I'd be flabbergasted if these shoes were of Norvegese construction. They are, however, stitched in a way that mimics Norvegese construction--stitching that goes laterally into the upper, attaching the welt and upper to the insole in a Norvegese shoe, rather than lower down into the feather as with a regularly-welted shoe. With these Moreschis, I suspect that the stitching is purely decorative, with the welt (if they're welted) attached a la Goodyear. They could also be Blake/Rapid stitched, with the welt replaced with a midsole.

    BTW, I've seen Moreschi shoes at Holt Renfrew in Vancouver. The ones I've seen have run in the $375 - $450 Cdn. range, and have been nice, but not exceptional. Now, it's entirely possible that the Moreschis that STP has on sale are from a higher line by that company than those I've seen here.
     
  15. mensimageconsultant

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    huh?
    "attention-getting"? "flashy"? "pimp"?
    are we looking at the same shoes? They're none of the above [​IMG]


    http://www.pimpcostumes.com/costumes...--Blue/157,120

    So, strictly speaking, not quite "pimp."

    However, it's an issue of perspective. People here or in, for example, Sicily won't see that shoe (with its shine and distinctive shape) as flashy. Those not used to Italian styling, or those who equate Italian styling with Mafia flash, might.
     

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