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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by shoreman1782, Jan 4, 2012.
+1 especially for the idea of a modified last
There are journalism and there're the fashion journalism. PTO, Permanent Style, etc.
But I still enjoy their articles. They are so far still very informative.
Peter, I think the fact that it wasn't up in the article is just a function of how it was split up.
$6000 for John Lobbs shoes? this shows you the power of marketing in the clothing industry if a $2000 made in USA shoe is comparable to something 3x the price.
One pair of Prince Charles' Lobbs is just over 40 years old. I'm sure most of you have seen the photos and know which pair I'm talking about. Assuming they have been reworked once a decade at $1,000 a pop, total price is $10,000, or $250 per year. Marketing is not inconsequential, but it isn't everything.
Not a problem, we welcome the scrutiny. It's my error in not making it clearer in this piece.
The disclosure on Jesse's Put This On post:
No, it's cool. SF usually goes out of its way to disclose conflicts/promotions/quid pro quos -- as it should be. That's why I found the omission here a little odd.
At any rate, I think many -- if not most -- SF members have keen bullschnitz detectors and know when someone's shilling.
Maybe this is in the video, but my connection from home is a pain for streaming.
A price (range) was cited for full bespoke. Once the last is made I assume (wrong?) that it can be reused for a while. Would a subsequent pair then be closer to the price of "make this for me in a 9B?"
eh, both Bugatti and Camero are functionally the same/similar but it doesn't make them the same thing. You can pain as much as you want, but you might not be immortalized like Monet.
Any picture of Raul shoe?
What constructions they use?
They use either Goodyear or Blake construction depending on the appropriateness for the style of shoe. Blake for shoes where the customer wants a sleeker, more Italianate look.
I think I left out a bit in the description of the Bespoke process - they actually create a full dummy shoe on the last and give it to you to wear first so they can make any necessary adjustments before they make your shoe.
Raul has a Tumblr here where he posts pictures of shoes.
There's some interesting custom orders there - bowling shoes and motorcycle boots and stuff like that. Remember that it's Hollywood, and part of their business is that they will make the shoe you want, so don't judge the distasteful ones on their distastefulness . I think Raul gets a kick out of the crazy orders, but he's really passionate about the traditional styles. Their standard models are very traditional and really gorgeous.
He told me the other day about a guy who came in dressed head to toe in red and asked if they could make him some red shoes. "Yes. Yes we can." I like that Raul thinks that's fun and not sacrilegious.
You're getting pretty deep here, and I don't want to speak for Raul and get something wrong.
Give Raul a call. 323-932-9874. He's the nicest guy in the world.
Why would Jesse Thorn show a photo of the shoes when he can show a photo of Jesse Thorn?
That plaid number is one nasty shoe.
Looks well-executed though.
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