I think j.crew's Ludlow suit is quite meh. Lapels are slim, def. too slim for those who prefer a more traditional lapel width, yet aren't quite slim enough for the skinny lapel fashion-forward crowd. Armholes aren't high at all by SF standards, despite the suit's trimmer cut. Shoulder padding feels average and I find the shoulders to be rather boxy irl. They've def. marketed the hell out of that suit/cut over the years, but it's perhaps time for them to revamp it or come out with a new cut.