Japanese Shoes: Bespoke & RTW Super Thread

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  1. nutcracker

    nutcracker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I believe their MTO goodyear welted shoes are made by Miyagi Kogyo, based on QC design. Miyagi Kogyo also makes the Arai Hiroshi MTO I told you about.
     
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    nutcracker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The newest issue of LAST on sale today...YUM

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    nutcracker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Trickers? or are these Aldens? No, they are MTO shoes from Miyagi Kogyo, based on their 'oblique' shaped MD last. This last is clearly inspired by the Modified Last (at least they admit to it openly), but with a less edge to it, IMO.

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    Even the bottom looks like its American cousin

    Miyagi Kogyo's factory MTOs are available with a slew of designs, leathers (+cordovan, exotics) and lasts to choose from. They even allow last customization. Not happy with Alden's Modified Last offering? this may be the answer

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    Alden's V-tip in Modified Last? Nope, but I won't blame you. They do look alike.
     
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    Yes, that's the information I have. So if the leather quality is on par the QC pattern order would be better value than the Sion MTO?
     
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    Saion uses better quality leather (mostly imported, Italian or French). Smooth leathers are Ilcea and Annonay, Suedes are from Sciararda. QC/Miyagi Kogyo uses domestic leather for their basic price (you can pay extra ¥14,000 for Annonay leather).

    I also think you will find more hand finished quality from Saion (they are hand lasted etc...). The soles on Saion looked decent too, with hidden channels.

    But the distinct, sharp looking profile may not suit everyone. There are only 6 styles to choose from. so I'm not certain if you will dig them, both in fit and style. They are also McKay/Blake constructed, and some feel that the method is inferior to Goodyear Welted construction. And of course, QC Pattern has a huge selection to choose (like the Alden looking shoes above), and they are solidly made by Miyagi Kogyo.

    At ¥40,000, personally I would say Saion is a better deal, but you should probably hold your judgement and see them in person
     
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    add to list: Tokyo

    Zootie-ide (Yosuke Ide): http://www.zootie-styling.com/?mode=f1
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    nutcracker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Those are some tight fiddle backs :wow: Unfortunately I can't edit the first post anymore, so I'm asking the admin for a possible solution....
     
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    Thanks nutcracker.
     
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    these two from Clematis are on the favorites list so far

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    the elephant for the texture & color not necessarily the style

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    can someone translate the currency for me, i'm having absolutely no luck . . . . Price:10分仕立のみ
     
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    nutcracker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The lizard: ¥346,500 = $3480 USD The elephant(!!): ¥396,900 = $3983 USD The words "10分仕立のみ" means "10/10 Hand Made" (hand lasted, handsewn welted, hand bottomed), as opposed to their cheaper 9.5/10 hand made models (the bottom is partially machine stitched). Also note that these are full handmade MTO shoes using Clematis's house last, they are not Bespoke.
     
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    thanks, i finally figured out what i was doing. those lizard are simply jaw dropping & i love the novelty of the elephant in that color
     
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    looks like the elephant is a ¥100K yen up charge, not nearly as bad as crocs. Yeah, the lizard skin has an antique finish to its, looks great.
    From the pictures I've seen, Clematis's fit & finish seems top notch. I hope to see one in person.
     
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    Talkin' about Clematis..... these booties have been posted a few times before, but I think they're worth another round!

    Clematis full handmade MTO. They look eggplant-ish but the owner says they're Dark Brown.

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    I'm not sure how you call this, but I love how they're both folded in at the top line

    from zenobia_bengal's blog
     
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    I like the shape, I would have done it in burgundy or oxblood instead of dark brown. Yea, it doesn't look like dark brown in the photo for sure...
     

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