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Japanese Shoes: Bespoke & RTW Super Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by nutcracker, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. Betelgeuse

    Betelgeuse Distinguished Member

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    The navy ones in the far right... WOW! Do you have more of them?

    The green ones before the navy... also WOW!
     


  2. nutcracker

    nutcracker Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    :fonz:
    Il Quadrifoglio bespoke starts from ¥231,000 yen ($2300 USD) or so from the trunk shows. A smidgen cheaper if ordered direct at their Kobe atelier. An awesome deal. IMO.

    Very few shoemakers outside Tokyo charge over ¥300K yen ($3000 USD) for bespoke shoes. I can only think of Koji Suzuki (Spigola), who charges a bit over ¥300K yen for his bespoke, up from only ¥170K when he just started a decade ago.
     


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    Man. So cheap. It really puts the pricing of English makers into perspective.
     


  4. nutcracker

    nutcracker Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes indeed, but one of these Latin-trained shoemakers told me he puts the pricing of Italian bespoke shoes more into consideration (which comparatively cost less than English shoes)
     
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    Yet the USA struggles to maintain even a RTW shoe industry with 2x the population?
     


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    2.5x. And we have the innovations of Nike, Underarmour and Lululemon!!!

    Majorities of Japanese companies still require suit and tie as the uniform so the demand for menswear is still high.
     


  7. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Stylish Dinosaur

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    I think the formality of the workplace in the USA is dropping, while Japan still adheres to the business suit and tie. Thus, more demand, and more interest in specialized shoes.
     


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    I've written so before, but here it goes again: I feel Japanese cordwainers have surpassed their English and Italian teachers. There is so much fine health to be pulled from these chiseled, contoured, through-and-through finished pieces. Based on photos alone, my favourite in Japan is Marquess whose chiseled toe is finer than what I've seen on some Tuczeks.

    Why buy a Rembrandt you can only ogle at home when you can invest in a pair of Marquess, which will walk with you anywhere you go?
     


  9. nutcracker

    nutcracker Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    I think the level of craftsmanship (and also aesthetics) among Japanese cordwainers is undoubtedly high, and some (yes, Marquess) are truly exceptional. Yet I still think the Japanese have a lot to learn from their successful English (and also continental) senior counterparts. Taking extra time to make beautiful shoes by oneself is one thing, but being able to translate that into sustainable (and growing/successful) business is another, and arguably as difficult.
     
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  10. BespokeMakers

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    NC,Thank you for your help.
     


  11. BespokeMakers

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    Betelgeuse,I agree.
    Would you like to see more shoes? 
    Please use this as reference.
    http://ilquadrifoglio.tumblr.com/

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  12. FlyingMonkey

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    Lululemon is Canadian, thanks very much! Woo-hoo, go Canada!

    (err, actually Canada has approximately one bespoke shoemaker that I know of...)
     
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    Hi NC,
    If i'm not mistaken you made bespoke with Il Quadrifoglio at their trunk show right?
    Do you have several fittings with them? or did they send you the trial shoes?
    Thanks
     
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    nutcracker Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes they have one fitting session with trial shoes, I did it on location at the World Footwear Gallery (where they host the show)
     


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