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Japanese Denim

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by raley, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. Brian SD

    Brian SD Senior member

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    The striations I'm talking about with the 811 are quite different from, say, the Nudie natural indigo or the l.e. Sven.

    Here's good pictures:

    http://denim-gallery.heavy.jp/eternal_811-6.html

    Notice the clearly apparent vertical lines. I don't know why this happens. It's starting to become apparent on mine, even though they've been worn very little (only six weeks... I'm breaking in my SDAs right now). My SDAs are not doing this.


    yea, I know exactly what you're talking about. I think that it may be a result of warp threads that vary GREATLY, and weft threads not so much. The SDA's may have less variation - thicker threads overall, or perhaps thicker weft threads.

    The way I see it, each vertical "line" is just one warp thread that was thick enough that it was more susceptible to abrasion, and thus will fade quicker than the others. The Eternals may be woven in such a way that every couple warp threads, there's a really thick one that fades fast.

    An analogy to how I see it (since I love analogies): imagine you're scraping your knuckles along a stucco wall. Your middle knuckle, which sticks out the most, is going to get ripped up the fastest, while your little knuckle will be scraped less because it's not touching the wall as much.
     
  2. amirrorcrackd

    amirrorcrackd Senior member

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    45rpms run about 66% of the price stateside after conversion. That's how I got my pair.

    Dan
     
  3. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

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    The Japanese invented denim, you know...
     
  4. lupin23rd

    lupin23rd Well-Known Member

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    Haha guitarwolf jeans, awesome!

    Anybody got a pair and want to comment on the fit?

    m
     
  5. Brian SD

    Brian SD Senior member

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    45rpms run about 66% of the price stateside after conversion. That's how I got my pair.

    Dan


    So then, Jomons would be what.. $500 or so in Japan?
     
  6. The Grapist

    The Grapist Senior member

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    The Japanese invented denim, you know...

    I thought it was the French and/or Italians.
     
  7. whoopee

    whoopee Senior member

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    They may have invented denim but it took the Swedish to reveal the naked truth to the world.
     
  8. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

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    The Japanese invented the Swedish.
     
  9. PG2G

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    So then, Jomons would be what.. $500 or so in Japan?

    I don't know about Jomons, but someone on the other sf got a pair of distressed sorahikos ($478 in NY) for $403 (including shipping) from Juno. Said the retail price was 33,400 (~$278 US).

    Looks like the price for one-wash Sorahiko's in Japan is only 24,150 (~$205 US) and they retail for $333 in NY.

    That's a pretty damn big difference. Don't see the Jomon on the website though, I can't tell whats what on the website, hehe. This is definitely an option I'll have to consider when that time comes though...
     
  10. Brian SD

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    horriblyjollyjinx Senior member

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    here are some better pics of SD 100s worn in. I bought them a lot because of these pics, I wouldn't have bought them If I had only seen the pics on SD's own site.

    [​IMG]
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    What you need to do first is decide what cut you want.
     
  12. kumoo

    kumoo Well-Known Member

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    if you can get, get the studio d'artisan D1177 21oz.. or their D01 or D02 (both deep dyed natural indigo).. i just got my D1177... worth every single penny.

    and samurai jeans are nice too for similar price.
     
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    PG2G Senior member

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    I don't think they make Aihiko's anymore.
     
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    kumoo Well-Known Member

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    D1177 21oz

    Someone please!!!!!!! give me a heads up on what it's like to wear and break in a pair of jeans that weighs almost 2 pounds, I have to know, hopefully there have been no injuries.

    Samurais, Eternal's SD's some of these brands are totaly unfamiliar to me, plus you guys are always using abreviations when talking about certain fits and washes. Would someone kindly hook-up a translation thread so I can get up to speed on what to buy?, and no smart arses please giving me a heads up on Seven, Antik you know the deal!!!
     
  17. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Well. I'll start. SDA = Studio D'Artisan. Japanese company that makes high quality reproductions of archival Levis jeans. Most of the Japanese brands metnioned here do just that.
     
  18. kumoo

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    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6855361151 this auction on ebay gave a pretty good idea of the D1177's. and for eternal jeans, my pair of 811 is coming along quite well after 3 months of wear.. it has the perfect cut, i have to say. slim classic fit, and very comfortable. (just found a pic of a pair of 6 month 811's) [​IMG]
     
  19. Fuuma

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    Man I really wish I could wear jeans to work, now buying another pair would just result in the ones I own getting almost no wear each. I might end up getting one anyway but since it's kinda like "just one last fix" at least for a while I really gotta choose carefully.

    So far I've been eyeing 5EP straight, 45RPM (sorahiko?), denime and eternal.
     
  20. Brian SD

    Brian SD Senior member

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    Man I really wish I could wear jeans to work, now buying another pair would just result in the ones I own getting almost no wear each. I might end up getting one anyway but since it's kinda like "just one last fix" at least for a while I really gotta choose carefully.

    So far I've been eyeing 5EP straight, 45RPM (sorahiko?), denime and eternal.


    All of those choices are quite similar, and all of them are excellent. I'll point out some differences here.

    5EP: Greencasted denim (optional?) on the Straight Downs. No-scratch rivets, red threads on leather patch, no contrast-stiching around the fly.

    45rpm: A bit more generous of a fit. Truer blue than the other choices, and probably considerably less contrasty.

    Denime: Heavy, starchy and more true to the 40s-60s Levi's (or Lee's, take your pick).

    Eternal: A hybrid between 5EP's modern feel and Denime's heavy wear. Slimmer than Sorahikos, (most) Denimes, but not as slim as 5EP.

    Kumoo, where did you find that? Not to be a naysayer but those look heavily sandpapered and not genuine wear to me.
     

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