Japanese Cordovan

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Fishball, May 26, 2008.

  1. fra

    fra Well-Known Member

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    maxxed,

    I'm thinking to make a pair of shell cordovan in EG Dover model.
    Mayer workmanship is not the best, but accpectable. Do ask for the goodyear welt, which is not their default welting. Go check it out!

    Tarmac,
    Yes, horween is more expensive.

    One thing I don't understand.
    Labour and land is not cheaper in Japan than States. Both source their horse butt in europe. Why horween is that expensive? That means horween make a lot of money.


    As far as I know Horween shells are so expensive because in the tanning process they use a lot shells are waisted because they do not meet the standard or are not useable. I do not know how it works in the Japanes tannery but I know a shoe manufacturer that used both and told me the Horween shells are far better...

    Fra
     


  2. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Senior member

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    Balint of Vienna also uses Horween:

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  3. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    One thing I don't understand. Labour and land is not cheaper in Japan than States.
    Horween is a union shop located in a gentrified neighborhood on the North side of Chicago; Not particularly low overhead. In fact, a century ago there were two dozen tanneries in their neighborhood now all are long gone except for Horween.
     


  4. yachtie

    yachtie Senior member

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    Horween is a union shop located in a gentrified neighborhood on the North side of Chicago; Not particularly low overhead. In fact, a century ago there were two dozen tanneries in their neighborhood now all are long gone except for Horween.

    That strip of Elston used to be called "tannery row" many moons ago.
     


  5. LeatherSOUL

    LeatherSOUL Senior member

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    Tom,

    The Warmthcrafts by Shinki-Hikaku Co don't look like plasticly at all.

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    For that type of belt with that type of finish why not get calf?
     


  6. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    how about this pic? Tom.
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    This the colour I ordered. They call it chocolate.
     


  7. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    here some more:
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    May be this one will look plasticly:

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  8. LeatherSOUL

    LeatherSOUL Senior member

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    I don't know...Horween shells look nicer to me but you can't really tell from the pictures. They have much more depth and look richer than your samples. Those shells look almost like "corrected grain shell" if there is such a thing! [​IMG]

    Hey, don't take my opinion to heart though...all that matters is what makes you happy! Remember, obviously I am a bit biased. Good luck, I'd love to see the finished products!
     


  9. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    Tom,

    I bought the shell just for fun. Of course I hope the Japanese shell is up to par of Horween, then we can have a cheaper alternative.

    My Horween shell is making to a double monk, hopefully will be finish at July.
    My Cordovan Vass is horween, I like it a lot.
    I have nothing against Horween except the price.
     


  10. LeatherSOUL

    LeatherSOUL Senior member

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    My Horween shell is making to a double monk, hopefully will be finish at July.

    Please share pictures when they arrive!
     


  11. Teacher

    Teacher Senior member

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    Please share pictures when they arrive!

    Absulotely! I'm also curious. I'm more curious, however, to see pics after they've been worn for quite a while.
     


  12. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    Tom,

    No problem, I will post some pics when I got the shoes.
     


  13. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    Just got the shell from Japan!

    Which is thinner, harder than Horween shell.
    Yes, it look little bit plasticly. Not as oily as horween.
    Should I make it to a pair of shoe, to see how it turn out?
     


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  15. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    I went to check out the horween shell this afternoon.
    The Alden shell cordovan color #8 chukka boot look also plasticly.
     


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