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Jan Kielman shoes - internet bespoke service

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by j ingevaldsson, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    Hmm, these "bespoke" shoes don't fit quite right. I guess I'll order another pair.
     


  2. jerrybrowne

    jerrybrowne Senior member

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    Hi,

    J is actually correct. It is very rare for the first commission from a bespoke maker, be it a suit, sport coat, or especially shoes, to fit right. Sometimes it takes 2-3 or even 4 commissions. Think of it as an investment in time, and money.
     


  3. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Well, if you would have taken the time to read a bit more than just one post, you would have understood that the shoes I ordered were ordered over the internet, with myself taking the measurements, and then no test shoes. If they would have fit 100 % I would have been very surprised. Like Jerrybrowne says, even for standard bespoke with fittings it's common that you don't get a 100 % fit with the first shoes. You do have to understand that when we talk about 100% fit here, we really mean 100%. No extra space anywhere, exactly the right tightness all around, etc. Your standard RTW that you call "the most comfortable shoes I own" wouldn't be even close.
     
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  4. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Harold Falcon is riding the whiskey train at the moment, so I wouldn't take him too seriously. At this point in the evening, he's trying to fuck thunder and fight lightening.
     


  5. jerrybrowne

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    I wish I was on that train. Sounds like fun.
     


  6. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Makes sense.
     


  7. jerrybrowne

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    Nice blog by the way. I'm sure you get this alot, but I wish there was an english translation!
     


  8. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    Yeah, if you have to wear Dr. Scholl's inserts to get your shoes to fit right they aren't bespoke. Sorry.
     


  9. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Thanks! Yeah I know, the only thing I can offer atm is the translation tool on the site (found in the sidebar), makes it understandable at least.
     


  10. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Go sleep the alcohol of and come back in the morning.
     


  11. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    Excuse me, I ordered my Whopper with cheese. This whopper has no cheese.

    Order another one. It's not like you can have it your way.
     


  12. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    When your shoemaker has a worse satisfaction policy than Burger King you might want to reconsider who makes your shoes.
     


  13. comrade

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    Actually that's a fantastic result from ordering over the internet and self-measuring.
    I had the opposite experience in getting MTM Gokey boots. I was actually measured
    at the Orvis store which sells them but not in 3E. So it was no more than a special
    order of a stock item. I was measured by a "professional" in the shoe dept. The shoes
    arrived at the store a month later. I was as though the size/width combination was the
    result of a random number generator: The shoes were off by that much. Got a full
    refund.

    http://www.orvis.com/store/product....v=127748&cm_mmc=plas-_-MensClothing-_-2967-_-
     
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  14. Harold falcon

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    Maybe not refer to ordering over the internet as bespoke then. I didn't use that term to start. I don't claim the socks I buy over the internet in size 13-15 are bespoke.
     


  15. Harold falcon

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    Several fittings for bespoke suits is totally acceptable as long as the finished product fits. When the finished shoe doesn't fit it's not bespoke. Period.

    And there's no shame in that. 95% of my shoes not bespoke. But I don't pretend they are. And for a vendor to pretend they are is fraud. Go hang with GC.

    Out.

    Edit 97% of my shoes are not bespoke. I only have 1. Please excuse my poor math.

    Double edit 97.5%.

    Third edit or thereabouts. I don't know whether to count the gym shoes or not.
     
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