Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Baz, Oct 12, 2004.
Okay, That worked.
They look quite hum-drum.
BUt Cap'n Kirk is STILL a class act- even as a nut case attorney.
For a heavy man wardrobe does make him look good. ( Mr Bill Shatner)
eh, they dont do much for me. I like the shoulders in that third picture, but beside that, they do nothing for me (I hate that blue tie, blue shirt look though in the same picture). I just cant get used to the way a 3 button suit looks with the top 2 buttons closed. I know its acceptable, and I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, it just doesnt look good to me. Its like it sucks all the style out of the suit or something, making the wearer look boxy and barrel chested. The clothes are realistic, even overly stylish, compared to the lawyers I see trudging around NYC everyday. Its funny, you can tell a lawyer by the way he dresses so easily in this city most of the time. I wonder if that holds true for any other professions?
Explain what you mean - how do lawyers dress in the city?
the vast majority of the ones I see look pretty much the same. I work in a high rise that houses one of the 3 biggest law firms in NYC. Off the top of my head - boxy navy suit, sometimes with stripes, sometimes without. mostly always 2 button, single vent. sleeves too long in 99% of the cases. white shirt, 99% of the time ill fitting, generally either too tight in the neck (for the fat lawyers) or too loose (for the skinny ones). ties are usually hideous, in a variety of colors and designs. pants generally too long. black shoes always. seems like most take pride in wearing the cheapest, most cracked, scratched shoes possible. ofcourse there are exceptions, as there are in every walk of life. im talking about my personal observations from being among so many each and every day I work.
i forgot about the casual friday outfit - boxy blue BB buttondown. double pleated khakis. they must hand this outfit out when you sign on.
Personally i think he dressed better last year on the Practice, but for whatever reason i still like the look (but yes he needs to unbutton the top button). Granted it doesn't compare to the Shattner - he just seems to be stepping it up a notch in how they are dressing him on the show - not that i could necessarily pull it off. just my opinion.
You're worrying me now, Phil. For my corporate picture I was wearing a 2-button Oxxford in charcoal grey (fabric had some visual texture thanks to a mixture of charcoal and dark grey threads), center vent. About 3 inches of waist suppression (so, not "boxy". Very pale blue spread color 1/2" herringbone weave, olive green Hickey Freeman tie, and dark brown Alden shoes.
Am that too conformist?
im just talking about what i see in my daily life. like i said, there are exceptions. you should wear whatever you like, as far as im concerned. i work in a building that has over 100 business tenants, yet you can pick the lawyers out the second you see them. why is that? probably because there are lots of rules about how they are supposed to dress to convey a certain image. i wish they dressed better, im sick of looking at those disgusting shoes everyday in the elevator.
As a DC resident, I see the Ugly Lawyer Uniform on a daily basis. Â It has the following three qualities:
1. Suit sleeves too long.
2. Plain white shirt. Â Often a button-down collar.
3. Ugly shoes. Â Either a black, rubber-soled, square-toed oxford or, even worse, a black, low-vamp, kiltie tassel loafer. Â Corrected grain, of course.
It sounds like you are okay.
I'm okay, phew.
It is true that lawyers in general dress poorly -- I think the biggest mistake is the plain white shirt. I hardly ever wear a plain white shirt. I like very pale blue, a pale lavender, a pale pink and then go with patterns from there (I prefer thin stripes for professional wear; but I'd go with a lot of checks if I had the choice). I'll never wear ugly shoes -- no rubber soles for me except with jeans. Always polished as well. No square toes either.
My two most worn shoes are my black RLPL cardiffs -- for a black shoe, a lot of character by the way thanks to the last design and detailing -- my brown captoe Aldens (which I antiqued fairly nicely with a flame), and soon to be at my door a pair of brown captoe Grenson masterpiece from Bennies. I always try to wear a nice tie.
My shirts are from Jantzen and my suits fit very well, though I wish my tailor would hem the sleeves shorter (she likes about 1/4" of sleeve to show, whereas I'd prefer 1/2" but I always get talked out of it -- not a huge deal). My shirts always fit very well and are high quality, as they are all from Jantzen now a days.
If I could make a comment about lawyers, it is that the shoes are normally hideous. I think there is something very appealing about a conservative suit, shirt, and tie combo as long as the shoes are magnificent.
Just today I rode up in an elevator with a partner coming back from court: decent suit, probably a Hickey. White broadcloth shirt, repp tie. Shoes=brown Ecco bluchers with rubber soles. Scuffed, of course.
Ughh, see that's what I'm talking about.
You can't deride the style of a man who wears a Hickey, white broadcloth (with a plain collar of course) and a repp tie (assuming everything fits well and matches properly). But then bust out those shoes and it ruins EVERYTHING.
If he's wearing some C & Js or even Aldens, he's well-dressed. With the rubber soled Eccos he just looks clueless.
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