James Bond to wear Crockett & Jones

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Nick V., Sep 29, 2012.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Funny that this happened by the way. New chick I'm dating thinks I dress like James Bond. Now I can say I have authentic 007 shoes. :slayer:

    Or I can imagine having this convo with someone.

    "Nice shoes, are those Gucci?"
    "Fuck no, these be C&J, bitch. Reppin 007 kicks. Lurk moar on teh StyFo"
     
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  3. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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  4. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I highly doubt that this is a fact.
    What's your source of information?
     


  5. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Because he (Craig) wanted C&J's.
    In this case, what Craig wants, Craig gets.
     


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    Are you doubting that companies pay for product placement? :rotflmao: Because in Hollywood these days, they've started more and more to build plots around product placement rather than going the other way around. It's really big money these days, and having the character walk into a store with your name on it would actually be a fairly subtle means of going about it. Pay attention to how many movies open with a car driving up, camera panning in on the grill with an extremely close shot that ends up with the lens about a foot away from a giant ford logo.

    Heineken already spent a boatload of money to have James Bond drinking beer rather than a vodka martini in the upcoming movie. If you don't think that the James Bond people are requiring barrels of money to associate their name with James Bond, you're nuts. Daniel Craig might have requested them, but Crockett and Jones wouldn't be able to mention that association without a massive copyright lawsuit unless they paid the studio a whole hell of a lot of money.

    In this era of movies, if you ever see a brand name, obvious or not, they've paid money to be there. Having a main character representing a certain element of society you want to market to walking into your store as the first thing they do when they have money again? That's not just product placement, that's a flat out ad, and there is absolutely no way a studio executive would let that one by without a decently large sum of cash on his desk.
     


  7. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I didn't say that.
    I simply responded to JRD617's claim that C&J "paid for product placement in W.S. Never Sleeps". I asked a fair question to support his claim. Until he can prove it, I take his claim to be without merit. Simply his assumption.
    When you stop laughing, see if you can find out how much Tom Ford paid for Craig to wear his suits in the movie.
    FACTS ONLY PLEASE.
     


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    chogall Senior member

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    C&J Royal Arcade store. Email/call them and place order; they will happily ship to you.

    lol.
     


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    I heard the shipping is 40 pounds if you order directly from them. Most of the online retailers now have waiting lists going into next year, but quite a few of them have free shipping. I guess the shipping price isn't too bad, considering the wait is probably going to get even worse with the publicity.

    While we're on the topic, I'm sure someone here will have tried ordering directly from C&J in Paris? I want some of these (a special model not available in the UK, apparently):
    [​IMG]
     


  10. studio253

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    P. Lal has been shut off by C&J as of a week or two ago when I was looking for another pair. I picked up two pairs of Alden shells from Shoemart instead.
     


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    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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  12. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Nick V, if you haven't been following the production of Skyfall, around a third of its $150 million budget comes from product placement. This is a huge amount. (The reason is that the movie studio , MGM, is in financial trouble).

    You speak very authoritatively on the subject of Skyfall product placement, but seem to be ignorant of this fact. Movie producers do not place products in their movies for free. If you do something well, never do it for free.

    -Heinken
    -Aston Martin
    -Omega
    -Sony
    -Coke
    -Swarovski
    -Tom Ford
    -No doubt Crockett and Jones.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ome/search.html?s=&authornamef=Chris+Hastings




    You seem to have missed my humor in the post about Cleverly.




    I didn't say that. I asked dinowhite for further clarification about Wall Street. Please do not put words in my mouth. If you're so concerned about posters "supporting their claims," you should reread my post and amend yours. :D
     
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  13. CBrown85

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    Ian Flemming made sure to include brand labels in his novels because, at the time, people had little access to luxury items. Bond makes pretty explicit note of where and how he spends his money in Moonraker and, and trust me, he doesn't ''overspend'' on things. Inflation aside, one could get a bespoke a lot cheaper than one can now. Of course, the Bond of the 50s and 60s was a lot less vain than the current incarnation. He had a Rolex because at the time, Rolex was still affordable and reliable. His Bentley was purchased first with inheritance and then with casino winnings. When he wasn't on assignment, which was most of the time, he was an out-of-shape alcoholic who spent too much time golfing and playing cards. He mostly ate eggs and toast and slept with married women because he feared commitment, or having one of them get hurt/killed like his dead wife. His suits were made for him, partly because Flemming had pretensions and partly because Bond didn't want to *think* about that shit. He just wanted clothes to wear and forget about. On assignment he mostly purchased whatever was there- hell, he wore jeans, espradelles, and a tshirt in Thunderball and Dr.No. In the short stories, he goes on a lengthy tirade about how much he hates leather soles- rubber are far more comfortable. When the films came out, Flemming thought it would be important to continue the trend of brand-dropping that had been in the novels. As time wore on, the movies became a caricatured version of the original. TBH, Casino Royale is the closest to literary-Bond since the mid-Connery era. If Bond thought a windsor knot on a tie was garish, he certainly wouldn't be caught dead in a Tom Ford suit, as beautiful as they are.
     
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  14. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    First I hope you accept my apology for using your avatar regarding a comment that was made by "dinowhite". That was my bad.
    Next, no I don't follow the production of Sky-fall or any other production. That's not my interest but thank you for sharing your knowledge.
    I'm in the shoe biz. All I ever said was Craig wanted to wear C&J in Sky-fall. The rest of this stuff is ? to me.
     


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    C&J website currently says this:

    In recent times the demand for Crockett & Jones footwear has escalated significantly. This is due to the underlying strength of the brand and the ongoing investments they have been making in product development, marketing and retail worldwide. As a result, there is a backlog of orders and delayed deliveries.

    However, for customers willing to wait 8 - 10 weeks for a particular shoe, please advise us accordingly. Furthermore, we will be also placing on our Web Site styles /sizes that become readily available as soon as possible.

    Please accept our sincere apologies for the disappointment and inconvenience our action may cause you.
     


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