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"Jacket required" - a relic of the past?

Saltricks

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I just ate at Mastro's steakhouse recently for my birthday (amazzzzinggg food) and I noticed that I was the only one wearing a suit (or even a sport coat for that matter) besides the waiters and the manager. There was even a guy in shorts and a ratty hawaiian shirt. I was under the impression that there was a jacket policy, and have heard stories of people being denied for not having one.

It might be a stupid gripe, but I felt awkward having the staff dressed better than the clientele. This was at the Beverly Hills location.

What are your opinions on "jacket required"?
 

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Something like that has to be supported bottom-up. A business will have a tough time surviving trying to enforce a dress code that is not widely supported by its patrons.
 

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The requirement still exists in many fine dining establishments, but it has been relaxed in lot of the restaurants that used to have it.
 

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Did the guy in shorts ask for RANCH dressing?
 

Harold falcon

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Originally Posted by Piobaire
Did the guy in shorts ask for RANCH dressing?

And a "to-go coke"?
 

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Originally Posted by Piobaire
Did the guy in shorts ask for RANCH dressing?

Originally Posted by harvey_birdman
And a "to-go coke"?

I wonder if he protested the corkage fee charged for his box of wine.
 

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Originally Posted by MrG
I wonder if he protested the corkage fee charged for his box of wine.

Well durr, they don't have a cork.
 

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Originally Posted by RedLantern
Something like that has to be supported bottom-up. A business will have a tough time surviving trying to enforce a dress code that is not widely supported by its patrons.

True that. I have been to too many restaurants that list the policy but do not try to enforce it. I try to adhere in the, admittedly pointless, hope that there will be some impact on other diners.
 

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Originally Posted by Saltricks
I just ate at Mastro's steakhouse recently for my birthday (amazzzzinggg food) and I noticed that I was the only one wearing a suit (or even a sport coat for that matter) besides the waiters and the manager. There was even a guy in shorts and a ratty hawaiian shirt. I was under the impression that there was a jacket policy, and have heard stories of people being denied for not having one.

It might be a stupid gripe, but I felt awkward having the staff dressed better than the clientele. This was at the Beverly Hills location.

What are your opinions on "jacket required"?


Staff are usually dressed more formally but more incorrectly than the clientele, last I heard. Which makes the "black suit black shirt no tie" uniform common to mid level waiters actually historically incorrectly correct.
 

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Originally Posted by marc237
I try to adhere in the, admittedly pointless, hope that there will be some impact on other diners.

Good for you. I do the same in the hope that the other customers feel a twinge of "uh-oh, maybe I should have worn shoes."

I have a picture of my grandfather mowing the lawn in a tie. Mowing the lawn. In a tie.
 

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Originally Posted by Sazerac
Good for you. I do the same in the hope that the other customers feel a twinge of "uh-oh, maybe I should have worn shoes."

I have a picture of my grandfather mowing the lawn in a tie. Mowing the lawn. In a tie.


This is great
 

Saltricks

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Originally Posted by Sazerac
Good for you. I do the same in the hope that the other customers feel a twinge of "uh-oh, maybe I should have worn shoes."

I have a picture of my grandfather mowing the lawn in a tie. Mowing the lawn. In a tie.


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