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J FitzPatrick Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by culverwood, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. culverwood

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    New blog looks a lot more polished....but the mechanics of reading a complete post are annoying. Clickig on 'see more' takes you to a new page and then you have to click the back button.... a mess.
     
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    Actually he is on November 21st. Wish Justin all the best, great chap and already a fan of his work. My new Wallingfords (calf/suede) are wonderful!
     
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    For those of you member local to Toronto, we will be screening some short films
    in celebration of TIFF, and our second monthly SF members meet up.
    As usual, we will be indulging in small grower Champagne starting at 6:00PM on
    Thursday, Sept 12.

    Please join us, make new friends, enjoy some films and great Champagne.

    Please wear your favourite shoes.

    Cheers!
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    Note: We will be playing Justin's short film about his journey into shoemaking.​
     
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    J. Fitzpatrick Trunk Show Reminder

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    LeatherFoot welcomes Justin Fitzpatrick, sometimes better known as The Shoe Snob, to Toronto. Mr. Fitzpatrick will be at LeatherFoot Toronto, this Friday and Saturday November 15-16 with show models and fitting pairs in preparation for his international launch of J. Fitzpatrick shoes at LeatherFoot. LeatherFoot will be one of the first stockists in the world to represent this brand. Be there to reserve your order as production will be very limited and exclusive. We will also be having seminars on how to polish and care for your shoes the way that The Shoe Snob has made famous with his blog and videos. For more information and to RSVP: events@leatherfoot.com.
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    Those Laurelhursts are awesome, how do they fit? Did they stretch at all after some wear?
     
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    I tend to wear them in the evening with DJ so they do not get too much wear though I have worn them with a lightweight suit as well. They were bought a little on the tight side expecting some stretch and they are still a good fit..
     
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    Thanks, the last seems a little narrow so was just wondering if they will in fact stretch a tad
     
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    My Wedgwood boots in Spring action; super comfortable since the first day!

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    I would just get your normal shoe size... I did and they fit fine....no slippage.....i just wont buy a smaller shoe and wait for it to stretch. Its a narrow last so you gotta get the width right or youll feel it in your feet.

    Btw the leather is very soft and supple.
     
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    I like his blog but more because there aren't any better ones like it, I never understand why he gives no love to Italian shoemakers. It's all English's most popular and Japanese bespoke.

    Regarding his shoes, I think many of them are hideous. I'm sorry to say it because you can tell he has a lot of passion, I just don't think he has great taste in shoes that sell. Maybe he is trying to market to a tiny flamboyant minority of shoe lovers, but from what I've seen on his blog I don't see his shoes catching on much anytime soon.
     
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    I also find that his take on shoes dubious, and his styles hideous. Also quite poor value for money when you can have Cheaney Imperials on eBay for less than what he is flipping, tacky (supposedly) made in Spain shoes.

    And I find it curious that he has the money for a pair of bespoke G & G shoes (with ample shots and praises in his blog) but has insufficient funds for even making a complete set of samples. Or is he a hack?
     
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    He is no hack. I can understand that his shoes are not to everyone's taste nobody's are. Certainly I have no qualms about the quality of his shoes and Cheaney has always been a purveyor of lower quality shoes to me.

    Do you have any reason or facts to back up your comments Verrihappy?
     
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    The hack comment was completely over the top, IMO. I've met Justin at a trunk show and found him to be engaging, intelligent, informed and filled with an abiding passion for fine footwear. I have found his blog to represent an incredibly broad range of RTW and bespoke footwear from across the world, with just about every style, colour and material represented. His is a true celebration of the craft, as opposed to a snide an self-serving promotion of one particular subset of preferences as to style / materials /construction coupled with an everlasting attack upon anything which falls outside that subset. I'd be more likely to hang the "hack" label on that approach.

    And I am expecting my first pair of shoes from him in a few weeks. Not the least bit hideous to my eyes - but then I don't hang that label on anything that falls outside my own range of personal preferences, either.
     
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    Is that based on your experience of wearing them or handling them?

    Just interested.

    On the topic of Justin, in person: great guy, blog: generalised & very opinionated, nonetheless a resource and good source for shoe porn.
    Shoes: My own prejudice, he comes to England what I consider the home of GY shoes (bias, I worked in the industry) and then due to costs, I strongly suspect, gets his shoes made in Spain.
    Quality of his shoes very decent, price point I think too high, because production in Spain is cheap, but remember I'm biased!
     
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    I've met Justin as well and found him forthright, knowledgeable and focussed, and just to tie in a couple of points he explained about the realities of getting shoes made and it wasn't just about money but more about economies of scale to get small runs done as he needs for his initial business. If you have seen his shoes in the flesh and talked to him you will know he gets the best possible result by working closely with the makers and insisting on good standards.
    And i had with me a pair of Cheaney Imperials which he looked at and mentioned how really nice quality they were, especially the fine quality of the skin. They are way better than the average Cheaney and IMO between CJ handgrade and EG or Lobb in quality ( I have all of these to be able to compare)...
    No need to disparage a positive guy like Justin or the very best efforts of "lesser" English shoemakers? ;)
     
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    The first time I met Justin at G&H their stock shoes were made by Cheaney, a company which is renowned for accommodating capsule collections and small runs. However they can't compete on pricing with Espania.
     
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    I hope that my posting does not deter anyone from contiunuing to express their feelings towards me or my brand, whether they be positive or negative. However, I did want to clarify the point of why I chose to make my shoes in Spain.

    Originally I had wanted to make my shoes in England. I talked to a few factories and believe it or not one owner of an English factory that I was interested in (none of you would guess who it is so please dont make presumptions written online - and FYI it was not Tony Gaziano) gave me invaluable advice and told me to forget about looking at English factories for two reasons; 1. they are too expensive and 2. they are too stubborn and rigid. And what I mean by that is that if I come to them as a designer and tell them that i want to create something unique and particular, they might very well say, "sorry we dont ( and wont) make that type of shoe." Just as a savile row tailor wont make you a soft shoulder suit even though it is well within their capabilities. I could not have those types of limitations put upon me as a designer because I did want to make things that were different, for example my denim balmoral boot. Plus I wanted to be hands on as I truely care about my shoes and what the customer gets and i have also heard that even as their private lable customer, most english factories would not let you anywhere near the production

    However the number one reason is more practical than this and it is the simple fact that because every single English factory has their own house label and very distinct way of making, I would already be shooting myself in the foot by using an English factory as I would inevitably be more expensive then their house brand would be:

    Now let me break that down for you in figures so that some of you who might think i am talking crap can understand. FOR EXAMPLE:

    Lets just say that C&J makes shoes for £60 (true cost price) and then retails them for £350. Because they own the factory they have price control and take the entire profit margin. Now lets say that i wanted to private label from them. They would sell me the shoes at a wholesale price of around £150 and to then factor my wholesale markup in the price i would have to sell at +£400. I would then be at least £50 more than C&J and any savvy consumer would be able to tell that my shoes were made by them as they dont change the sole features and the insignia on the inside of the shoe. I would naturally be pricing myself right out of my competitors range. And then that smart customer would say, 'why should i buy your shoe when the manufacturer sells his for £50 less? If you are Ralph Lauren you can do that; if you are a new brand known by few, you cannot. Business 101 would tell you that thats not smart business. SO THAT IS WHY I DID NOT CHOSE AN ENGLISH FACTORY for all of you whom have been wondering.

    there are other reasons as well but at the end of the day, I run a business and to price yourself out of your competitors pricepoint is just plain suicide and the height of stupidity for any new brand, especially when most of your competitors have over 100 years of history to go on top

    I hope that this helps clarify things. please feel free to continue discussing my brand, whether your opinions be good or bad

    Sincerely

    Justin

    P.S. i have been writing this on a French keyboard so please excuse all written mistakes
     
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    I don't think there is anything wrong or negative at all with what you are doing in fact I congratulate you and I believe it's worthy of celebration.I hope you don't begrudge my preference for English shoemaking, it's a personal choice. There is of course a lot of great shoemaking outside of these fine isles as you know better than I, whether it be Italy, Japan, Spain, Austria or of course France.

    I did find what you posted below very surprising though,I don't disbelieve you but it's a shocking situation


    It makes me wonder how all those other small and much smaller than Ralph Lauren labels manage to use English factories. Just by way of example I am thinking in terms of labels like shipton and henage and guys like Andrew lock who was and maybe still is using cheaney and selling at a lower price than the house brand. It's just curiosity, I don't expect you to answer on behalf of other manufacturers or to speculate about it. It's just many of the English factories I have had dealings with pretty much survived through their private label work. How times change.
     
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