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J Crew F/W 09 Discussion

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Teger, Jul 10, 2009.

  1. Robert

    Robert Senior member

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    Just bought the big red gingham secret wash shirt. Love the secret wash shirts, particularly if you get them for $29.99.

    How did you get that for $29.99?
     
  2. Keroberos

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    Got the Military Mockneck Wool Cardigan and it's time for a review. I've been wanting this thing since last fall and had waited patiently for it to go on sale. However, it never did and they all disappeared so I was bummed they all sold out last year. They are back this year and I'm not sure if they really sold out or if they put last years stock in storage refusing to put them on clearance? Anyway, I checked last years catalog and discovered it was priced at $188. This year the price is $168 so they did bring the price down a bit. I avoided paying full price because I seem to remember someone mentioning the mockneck was flimsy. For that reason I fully expected that I would end up returning the item, or perhaps because it would be too boxy.

    I called customer service to get sizing and it sounded like the large would work best - I was right. I'm an XL in just about everything and sometimes XXL (I'm 6'4"). With this baby you must size down!

    http://www.jcrew.com/AST/Browse/Mens...neck/18222.jsp


    Thanks for the review and fit pic, Vernon-Dozier.

    This man speaks the truth. Although I normally wear a J.Crew medium, the Military Mockneck in Medium I received yesterday is clearly a size too large for me. The Cotton Rib Sweater-Jacket fits similarly. I'll have to return them both in exchange for a Small. I'm 6'2", 200 lbs.

    Update: Just got off the phone with J.Crew. Here are the measurements the CR gave me:

    This was my first call to customer service, and my CR was incredibly friendly and helpful. Seemed to be US or Canadian-based as well.
     
  3. Robert

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    Thanks for the review and fit pic, Vernon-Dozier.

    This man speaks the truth. Although I normally wear a J.Crew medium, the Military Mockneck in Medium I received yesterday is clearly a size too large for me. The Cotton Rib Sweater-Jacket fits similarly. I'll have to return them both in exchange for a Small. I'm 6'2", 200 lbs.



    !! WHA...!! You're my height and about 15 pounds heavier. If I put on a j. crew small, or even a medium, I'd look like I was wearing my kid brother's sweater that mom shrunk in the dryer. How do you people size down that far and wear a sweater comfortably?

    To be more specific, what about your range of motion? That is, when you lift your arms or wrap them forward, don't the sleeves climb up toward your elbow? And doesn't it feel tight across your shoulders/upper back? Doesn't the bottom of the sweater then hike up your stomach and lower back?

    Sorry, I'm not buying that a garment made for a small man fits on a large one.
     
  4. Keroberos

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    !! WHA...!! You're my height and about 15 pounds heavier. If I put on a j. crew small, or even a medium, I'd look like I was wearing my kid brother's sweater that mom shrunk in the dryer. How do you people size down that far and wear a sweater comfortably?

    To be more specific, what about your range of motion? That is, when you lift your arms or wrap them forward, don't the sleeves climb up toward your elbow? And doesn't it feel tight across your shoulders/upper back? Doesn't the bottom of the sweater then hike up your stomach and lower back?

    Sorry, I'm not buying that a garment made for a small man fits on a large one.


    I have a 39" chest and a 34" waist. I can assure you that the sweaters are far from tight, even with two shirts underneath. I have a full range of motion and then some. If anything, the sleeves and body are too long in the Medium.

    I'll post fit photos tonight, and you can be the judge.
     
  5. Robert

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    OK. Sorry, I just don't get it. We have about the same waist size, and my chest is 42-43, but the thing that especially floors me is how a Small works with your height. I'm not saying I can't get into a smaller sweater, just that when I do, I feel like I'm suffocating. [​IMG]
     
  6. Keroberos

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    OK. Sorry, I just don't get it. We have about the same waist size, and my chest is 42-43, but the thing that especially floors me is how a Small works with your height. I'm not saying I can't get into a smaller sweater, just that when I do, I feel like I'm suffocating. [​IMG]

    I called back to get the measurements on the Mediums:

     
  7. Robert

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    OK. Chest would work for me, but I would need longer sleeves and more across the shoulders. & if the chest is just 43 and my chest is 43, that makes it pretty snug. So I guess it depends on all other variables. It kind of surprises me how exactly I fit into the size charts!

    Had an SA urge me to try on a medium j. crew sweater once, and when I came out of the fitting room, he immediately shook his head no and pronounced that I was a Large.
     
  8. Keroberos

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    OK. Chest would work for me, but I would need longer sleeves and more across the shoulders. & if the chest is just 43 and my chest is 43, that makes it pretty snug. So I guess it depends on all other variables. It kind of surprises me how exactly I fit into the size charts!

    I'm confused by the measurements she gave me. I can see that the chest is too large, but the shoulders and sleeves seem to place me as a Medium. I'm going to have to measure the ones I have at home to see if they match up.
     
  9. Robert

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    Remember that the material is also a factor. If it's thicker, take that into consideration when thinking about how it fits in the chest. Also consider that some sweaters are meant to look a little bulky, especially heavy cardigans. I'd rather have a slightly relaxed fit and feel in a thick sweater than err on the small side and feel constricted. (See Daniel Craig in Casino Royale, fo example--that cardigan is anything but small and yet looks like a perfect fit.)
     
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    Remember that the material is also a factor. If it's thicker, take that into consideration when thinking about how it fits in the chest. Also consider that some sweaters are meant to look a little bulky, especially heavy cardigans. I'd rather have a slightly relaxed fit and feel in a thick sweater than err on the small side and feel constricted. (See Daniel Craig in Casino Royale, fo example--that cardigan is anything but small ad yet looks like a perfect fit.)

    Both of these items are quite thick. Perhaps I have the right size after all. Like I said, I'll post pictures and see what everyone thinks. I'd love to not have to go through the hassle and expense of a return.
     
  11. Robert

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    imo when it comes to sweaters, it's as much about comfort as looks. You should be able to slip it on and forget about it, i.e., won't be bugged by feeling either bound or swimming in it. If you're comfortable, chancesare it's the right size.
     
  12. ArliHawk`

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    How did you get that for $29.99?


    I'm not entirely sure. When I went to pay for it, I expected to pay full price. But the cashier rang it up as being on sale. There was a smaller microcheck red for $29.99. So I don't know if she got confused, or if the large check was on sale.
     
  13. bossman08

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    This is the problem I have with sweaters. I'm about 15 lbs lighter than Keroberos and when I try a medium sweater, the sleeves are too short and the sweater itself is short. A Large will have the right sleeve and body length, but I will look like a flying squirrel due to the extra material on the sides.

    Would a tailor be able to take in the sides of one of J crews Merino Wool sweaters?
     
  14. Warren G.

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    I love that cotton rib sweater. I have the indigo and the material is pretty thick. Fwiw I got the small I'm 5'7 160ish ..38" chest with a 32 waist.
     
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    This is the problem I have with sweaters. I'm about 15 lbs lighter than Keroberos and when I try a medium sweater, the sleeves are too short and the sweater itself is short. A Large will have the right sleeve and body length, but I will look like a flying squirrel due to the extra material on the sides.

    Would a tailor be able to take in the sides of one of J crews Merino Wool sweaters?


    No, just put on cape and run around going, "Ah, Bullwinkle!"
     
  17. Keroberos

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    I'm confused by the measurements she gave me. I can see that the chest is too large, but the shoulders and sleeves seem to place me as a Medium. I'm going to have to measure the ones I have at home to see if they match up.

    I measured both items at lunch. As they are knitwear and therefore stretchy, some variance in is expected. The measurements J.Crew gave over the phone are spot on with one exception. My Cotton Rib Sweater-Jacket is 17" across the shoulder, whereas the CR indicated 16.25".
     
  18. synovoid

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    I think I have the same cable knit crew from last season, one in a black and one in grey. They fit isn't snug but it's a good sweater.

    are they thicker than those cotton-cashmere sweaters?
     
  19. synovoid

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    got the chambray shirt, and I love it.

    though at 2x price, the shirt is WAY better than the one from GAP.
     
  20. kmdsimpson

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    got the chambray shirt, and I love it.

    though at 2x price, the shirt is WAY better than the one from GAP.


    There is no comparison with the GAP shirt. The J Crew is much better. I just still think everything in the store is overpriced; maybe the cure is to go into the GAP and see difference.
     

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