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ITT: We recommend... if you like brand X, you might try brand Y.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by LA Guy, May 22, 2011.

  1. BB1

    BB1 Senior member

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    In general, you'd think that with the direction a lot of you skinnier guys are going (semi-goth ninja) that there would be a groundswell for Nuur, which uses fabrics that are better than Rick Owens, Damir Doma, wjk, etc...
    Unfortunately all the Nuur pieces I've seen on-line are only available in huge sizes. For a chest size of 35", what would the best Nuur size be? I don't agree with lumping wjk together with RO and Damir. The overall atheistic is far different and definitely not even semi-goth ninja. To me RO and Damir firmly embrace that aesthetic, while wjk only vaguely romanticizes a cool rocker vibe via more basic pieces. Hell, wjk even offered raglan baseball tees this season which is about as far removed from goth ninja as one could imagine! Also, I don't see much interest in wjk over at SZ. Also I feel it is difficult to quantify wjk's quality. I don't know what you've seen in person, but I have about 20 wjk pieces and the fabric quality on this label varies greatly. The cheaper pieces are about like W+H fabric, but the more expensive pieces have absolutely incredible fabric quality and hardware. I've never seen another label where the price of each piece so closely matches the quality. This label is more focused on quality than unique designs, yet the designs are not bland. And keeping with theme of this thread, I would recommend wjk for people who like the older W+H (prior to all the workwear crap).
     
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    if you like quoddy/yuketen you should be buying arrow mocs!
     
  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Yoox always has small sizes. Remember that the sizes are all EU sizes, and they fit small. For a chest of 35", I would suggest a size 48 for the tees, unless you want them to be nipple showing tight. Seriously, some of the stuff is really, really, slim. Maybe a 46, but no smaller.

    Unfortunately all the Nuur pieces I've seen on-line are only available in huge sizes. For a chest size of 35", what would the best Nuur size be?

    I don't agree with lumping wjk together with RO and Damir. The overall atheistic is far different and definitely not even semi-goth ninja. To me RO and Damir firmly embrace that aesthetic, while wjk only vaguely romanticizes a cool rocker vibe via more basic pieces. Hell, wjk even offered raglan baseball tees this season which is about as far removed from goth ninja as one could imagine! Also, I don't see much interest in wjk over at SZ.

    Also I feel it is difficult to quantify wjk's quality. I don't know what you've seen in person, but I have about 20 wjk pieces and the fabric quality on this label varies greatly. The cheaper pieces are about like W+H fabric, but the more expensive pieces have absolutely incredible fabric quality and hardware. I've never seen another label where the price of each piece so closely matches the quality. This label is more focused on quality than unique designs, yet the designs are not bland.

    And keeping with theme of this thread, I would recommend wjk for people who like the older W+H (prior to all the workwear crap).


    I sort of agree with this. But... wjk is not unlike MA+, which is also not "ninja wear" in the way that Rick Owens is. It's really, well, basics, but just done in remarkable fabrics. I mean, the signature piece (the hooded aviator) is essentially a hoodie. A super cool hoodie, but ultimately, a hoodie. That you can wear with busted up jeans and kicks. The colors and textures though, can easily be co-opted into the ninja aesthetic. imo, same goes with wjk and Jun Hashimoto. Remember, it's ultimately the buyers, rather than the designers, who present a collection to the world.
     
  4. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I already know I'm going to get metaphorically raped for this, but:

    Theory = ?


    Theory? If you like Theory, you may as well just go and die.

    Seriously, if you like Theory, you should be into Filippa K and Acne. It's like Theory, but instead of being for boring Americans who sort of like fashion, but don't really, it's for Scandanavians who want to look "nice". The difference? The average Scandanavian is a lot better looking than the average American. That makes a world of difference.
     
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    Recommendations if I like Geller, NdG, Ervell, Junya, nonnative?
     
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    It's like Theory, but instead of being for boring Americans who sort of like fashion, but don't really, it's for Scandanavians who want to look "nice". The difference? The average Scandanavian is a lot better looking than the average American. That makes a world of difference.
    I find this quite ironic considering I am one hundred percent Norwegian (my four great-grandparents all immigrated from Norway). Thanks.
     
  7. KitAkira

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    Can we open this up so people can request recommendations? I like Paul Smith, for instance, so are there any lesser-known designers I should check out?
    From a tailored point of view, Bamford & Sons and Viktor & Rolf come to mind
     
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    Any lesser known brands akin to KZO/Riviera Club (West Coast vibe) at a similar pricepoint?
     
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    i like Saion shoes and in general the shoes discussed in this "Japanese shoemakers" thread started by Fuuma over @ sz

    any other brands that produce similar styles? chief considerations in orders of importance are the distinctive, sexy beak-like shape as exemplied by the pics below, superb quality and local availability.



    some examples
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    a less severe example (re: shape)
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    thanks!
     
  10. KitAkira

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    Sutor Mantelassi uses a very similar toe, and there's an English maker that has a similar model to the last boot, but I can't think of the name at the moment
     
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    ^ final pair are perfect. hate all the others haha.

    you know about gaziano and girling and other MC shoe brands right? G&G make a pretty similar shoe
     
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    Sutor Mantelassi uses a very similar toe, and there's an English maker that has a similar model to the last boot, but I can't think of the name at the moment

    yeah pretty sure you're thinking of G&G.

    btw lol at the SZ guys thinking channeled sole meant it was glued not stitched...
     
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    I actually am very ignorant about the mc brands, so these recs are very much appreciated guys. will check them out
     
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    Theory? If you like Theory, you may as well just go and die.

    Seriously, if you like Theory, you should be into Filippa K and Acne. It's like Theory, but instead of being for boring Americans who sort of like fashion, but don't really, it's for Scandanavians who want to look "nice". The difference? The average Scandanavian is a lot better looking than the average American. That makes a world of difference.



    French equivalent=Agnès B
     
  15. Fuuma

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    I actually am very ignorant about the mc brands, so these recs are very much appreciated guys. will check them out

    Corthay Arcas are known for their beaked shapes, I'd also check out Vass U last.
     
  16. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Corthay Arcas are known for their beaked shapes, I'd also check out Vass U last.

    Just a word of warning on the U-last. It's extremely narrow and elongated. The Sutor Mantellassi (get 'em while they last, because the company is now defunct) lasts are much more comfortable for most people, myself included.
     
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    Just a word of warning on the U-last. It's extremely narrow and elongated. The Sutor Mantellassi (get 'em while they last, because the company is now defunct) lasts are much more comfortable for most people, myself included.

    I don't wear the U last (prefer the rounder F). I love the pair of Sutors I have though, too bad about the closure. I'll check what Lance got in stock...

    Arcas are also quite narrow.
     
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    i love patrik ervell. any alternatives?
     
  19. pickpackpockpuck

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    From a tailored point of view, Bamford & Sons and Viktor & Rolf come to mind

    Two brands I often see and honestly kind of overlook. But I will definitely check them out. Thanks.
     
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    I tend to wear a lot of Epaulet, WvG, and RRL but have wanted to mix in some of what LA Guy called the OC look with pieces I already have. Have also been interested in some of the "goth wear" and DBSS. What would be some suggestions that could blend those all together.
     

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