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It's good to be Tom Cruise

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Ambulance Chaser, Apr 28, 2005.

  1. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Distinguished Member

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    she's fighting him off with Hermes Powerâ„¢
     


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    -"You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do," Cruise said.- Really. Is he insane? Clinically insane? No, I am seriously asking. I only wish Matt Lauer had said in response to the above statement: "Tom, you know what insanity is, then?" EDIT: BTW, Tokyo, that is one of the funniest posts ever.
     


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    Anyone else think that there's at least some similarity between Tom Cruise and Christopher Reeve?
     


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    i agree with him on the subject of anti-depressants and ritalin. the cure to restless spirit is not to be found in a pill.
     


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    You characterize depression as a "restless spirit"?
     


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    i had written a long response to this question but it got erased. suffice it to say that i believe depression to be caused by fear, and fear to be caused by a lack of faith or spiritual awareness. i say this from extensive experience with depression and anti-depressants.

    as for ADD and ritalin, i think they were both invented as an easy way for parents and teachers to sedate their kids into more controllable behavior. people are different and hyperactivity is simply another personality trait among many. humankind has existed for many years without having to drug its children into submission. i've never heard of a kid in a less developed country who was unable to function because he had ADD and no ritalin to treat it.
     


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    Shields Rips Cruise's 'Ridiculous Rant'

    NEW YORK (AP) - Brooke Shields took aim at Tom Cruise's "Today" show diatribe against antidepressants, saying the drugs helped her survive feelings of hopelessness after the birth of her first child. In an op-ed piece published Friday in The New York Times, Shields criticized what she called Cruise's "ridiculous rant."

    Cruise had criticized the actress for taking the drugs, and became particularly passionate about the issue in an interview on "Today" last week.

    "You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do," Cruise told Matt Lauer.

    He went on to say there was no such thing as chemical imbalances that need to be corrected with drugs, and that depression could be treated with exercise and vitamins.

    "I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression," Shields wrote.

    She added that Cruise's comments "are a disservice to mothers everywhere. To suggest that I was wrong to take drugs to deal with my depression, and that instead I should have taken vitamins and exercised shows an utter lack of understanding about postpartum depression and childbirth in general."

    Shields said she considered swallowing a bottle of pills or jumping out the window at the lowest point of her depression following the birth of her daughter, Rowan Francis, in 2003. A doctor later attributed her feelings to a plunge in her estrogen and progesterone levels and prescribed the antidepressant Paxil.

    "If any good can come of Mr. Cruise's ridiculous rant, let's hope that it gives much-needed attention to a serious disease," she wrote.

    Shields described her post-childbirth experiences in the book "Down Came the Rain: My Journey Through Postpartum Depression."

    Cruise is a follower of Scientology, a religion that teaches that psychiatry is a destructive pseudo-science.
     


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    atomoxetine
     


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    from Gawker:

    A famous actor, who we're not going to name because he likes to sue people who accuse him of what in the next paragraph we'll accuse him of, and his recently obtained fiancÃ[​IMG]e, with whom he is very, very, very much in love, have a five-year contract regarding this relationship, and she is to be paid $8 million for fulfilling her end of the contract.

    "¢ The deal was arranged and the engagement announced in a very short period of time because the wife of a certain, and rather adorable, pop singer found her husband in bed with the abovementioned unnamed actor, and said actor wanted to have this new news out as soon as possible so as to overshadow any new rumors about his sexuality.

    The fuse is definitely lit for more explosive revelations. This famous actor should have known not to play with matches.
     


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    I just still want to know how the f*ck someone comes around to believing in Scientology.

    Anyone remember what Twain wrote in the Innocents Abroad about Mormonism?
     


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    yes, well that seems to be a fairly destructive way of seeing things. i'll agree that ADD and hyperactivity have been overdiagnosed with the support of many parents who can't be bothered to put a little more effort into raising their kids, but to deny that brain chemistry has some effect on depression is fairly closed-minded.

    my extensive experience with faith (of the religious sort) is that it tends to exacerbate chemically-caused depression. denying that there's a chemical at work is not going to help things; and inducing guilt for considering it, is only going to hurt. is a life of 'quiet desperation' really necessary?

    i don't believe in being philosophical about depression, or hyperactivity, or any other 'trait' that sucks enjoyment out of life. i believe in fixing it, and if drugs provide the solution, let's have 'em.

    my somewhat less extensive experience with antidepressants is that they do have an effect on depression. they even-out the mood swings which would tend to make me unstable and unhappy. they provide a sense of calm and an ability to be a little more rational about potentially damaging situations. they enable me to better control my fears and desires, rather than the other way around. these are all good things.

    tom cruise can lick my balls for buying into the scientology bullshit that psychiatry is tantamount to naziism. he can lick 'em twice for being a pompous ass about it.

    /andrew <- thinks cruise could've used a little sedation on the oprah show.
     


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    i don't deny that brain chemistry is linked to depression. the question is whether this altered chemistry is the cause or the effect. i'm not religious and i'm certainly not one of those people to dismiss science or modern medicine. but if the doctor tells you that your depression is being caused by low levels of this or high levels of that, wouldn't you want to know why these levels are not where they should be?

    horace,

    the rumors are that cruise doesn't actually believe in scientology. he goes along with their pr schemes because they have evidence of his homosexuality and are holding it over him. but who knows...
     


  14. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim In Time Out

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    The thing about this whole homosexuality theory that bothers me is that, first of all, there are several openly gay actors in Hollywood who make quite a nice living. The only reason at THIS point in his career when he is already very well established to go to these EXTREME measures to hide his sexual preferences would be his own pride. I don't see many people boycotting the X-Men movies, or the Lord Of The Rings trilogy because Sir Ian McKellen is an "outed" homosexual. I don't think his current core fanbase (I.E. women between the ages of 20-40) would abandon him if he turned out to be gay or bi-sexual, and the ones that did would probably be more than matched by the influx of interest from the homosexual community. I doubt that it would inhibit any future movie roles that he might be inclined to take, because he's already proven himself time and time again to be one of the biggest box-office draws that Hollywood has, AND there would also be new roles opened to him as a gay man that he could not have comfortably taken earlier in his career.

    Plus he could stop paying people off to hide his secret. I mean, how long can it really last if everyone is already suspicious??

    I don't really think he's gay, I just think he's creepy and nuts. And if he *is* gay, he's even more creepy and nuts than I think he is.

    Now Richard Gere... thats a different story all together.
     


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    If Cruise "came out", he wouldn't get any more gay fans than he already has, don't you think.
     


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