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Italian Shirt Sizing

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jekv12, Nov 15, 2004.

  1. jekv12

    jekv12 Senior member

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    Many Italian shirts I see have only one size marked - the neck size in English and metric - for example, 15.5 / 39 I'm curious why the sleeve length
    isn't specified? This would make life a lot easier when shopping.

    Most sellers on eBay will specify the sleeve length, but it's clearly something they have to do on a shirt-by-shirt basis, and the sleeve lengths clearly vary even within the same neck size. Why not do it at the source?

    John
     


  2. j

    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    Makers that do that typically make a standard sleeve length, and possibly a "L" length, etc. In other words, the sleeves of a 15.5 will be your usual 33" or so, and a 15.5L will be 34-35" (for example, I'm making up numbers). The reason they don't mark the length is that they don't make all the different lengths.
     


  3. Drinkwaters

    Drinkwaters OG Affiliate Vendor

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    First of all it's inches and metric. Second, don't rely on that conversion to be accurate. A 39 is called a 151/2 but really measures less than that.
    I always sell my clients size 40 if they measure 15 1/2, it's a bit larger than a measured 15 1/2 but a better fit in the long run.
    In regards to sleeve length, European manufacturers expect as a matter of course that sleeves will be measured and adjusted at the time of purchase. Usually a 15 1/2 will measure, depending on manufacturer, 35-36 inches long. When you have your sleeves shortened make sure that the tailor is prepared to recut the sleeve by removing cuff and vent. If he / she doesn't do it this way, walk away and say thanks anyway.
     


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    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    Is this why I've found a couple of Jermyn Street shirts (incl. my Tyrwhitt, I believe) with no sleeve placket button? I saw that and initially thought, wow, that's sort of cheap, but then thought about it and I guessed that they expected the customer to adjust it and then add a button.

    How much should one expect to pay to have sleeves adjusted, including moving the vent?
     


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    Drinkwaters OG Affiliate Vendor

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    My tailor charges twenty five bucks. Not cheap but worth it.
     


  6. jekv12

    jekv12 Senior member

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    ...alas, I have the opposite problem and need all the length I can get (36.5-37 inches, though some 36's seem long enough).

    Tyrwhitt charges $10 (according to their website) but says "sleeve" - singular and doesn't specify whether the vent is moved. My BB shirts are also without a sleeve placket button.

    Thanks.
     


  7. Giona Granata

    Giona Granata Senior member

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    Usually Italian manufacturers do sleeves a little longer; than they will shorten them, or tighten the cuffs: usually shops in Italy will not charge for that.
     


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    joycemik Well-Known Member

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    Hello i would like to buy a italian shirt but i am a bit confused with the sizing converter to UK.
    Please anyone could tell me what the size 40-54 (italian shirt size) is in English sizing?
    Is It a L or XL size?
    Many thanks
    Regards
     


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