After reading Dr. Bresch's experiences with Alfred Sargent on the Ask Andy forum, and perusing most of the recent shoe posts on this forum, what is everyone's consensus on shoes that are outside the 600+ RRP luxury mark. Â Don't get me wrong, I love Edward Green, Lobb, Lattanzi, Santoni handmades, Weston, etc., but what does everyone wear for trolling around on a daily basis? Secondly, aside from Santoni and Lattanzi, how do people feel about second-tier Italian made shoes? Â Specifically, the Ferragamo Lavarzione Orginale and Tramezza, Bruno Magli handmades and Platinum, Tod's leather soled products, Lidfort, Stefano Brancini, Moreshci, and Gravati. Â I purposely excluded Mantellassi since they tend to approach the 6-700 mark. Â Oh, and I'd prefer this post avoid exotic hides since I still believe a minority of men can actually pull a croc loafer off. In terms of American shoes, I own one pair by Allen Edmonds (Hancock) and rubber-soled brown blucher by Alden. Â I use the AE for everyday wear, while the Aldens are for inclement weather. Â Both are nice shoes, but pretty boring IMHO. Â Nice shoes, but I'd rather avoid the discussing the merits of American shoes ad naseum.  I am most interested in hearing remarks about question #2, since there seems to be about as many Italian manufacturers as the rest of the shoe world combined.