Isaia shirts got smaller?

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  1. elsalvatrucha

    elsalvatrucha Senior member

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    Anyone here has experience with recent Isaia shirts?

    I ordered a few from Barneys and Saks sales this past week in my usual 16/41 and they are insanely small. All my older 16/41 shirts still fit fine.
     


  2. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The major department stores have been switching over from a more classic/regular US cut to a more trim fit the last few years. That trim fit is too skinny for me, so I don't buy them.
     


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    Look at the tag where the size is listed. There is a smaller tag underneath identifying the "cut".
    There are two that i am aware off "E"uro and "I"talian. The I is trimmer. Maybe that can account for the difference you are seeing.
    I have not noticed any difference in how trim they are over about 10 shirts purchased over the last two years, but thry are all the same "I" style. I believe neiman marcus used to carry the E version in thr past
     
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  4. elsalvatrucha

    elsalvatrucha Senior member

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    Thanks guys, that is probably it. The shirt I am wearing now has an E so likely the ones i ordered were I. Most of the shirts i have, were purchased at neiman too so that makes sense.

    The trim fit does not work for me either
     


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    My guess is that it is the Euro-fashion industry' s
    response to the collapse of their eponymously
    named currency.
     
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    I personally like the "I" trimmer version but i suppose it all depends on body type and how you like your dress shirts to fit. As far as i know barneys, saks, and I believe also neimans all just carry the I version now
     


  7. elsalvatrucha

    elsalvatrucha Senior member

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    I actually went home and all my shirts have an E. i already returned the other shirts but imagined they had an "I".

    I am going to order a 17.0 and see the fit. I guess i could always loose some weight haha
     


  8. A Guy from Shanghai

    A Guy from Shanghai Senior member

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    I only have one isaia shirt. It has the label "M", and it is quite trim. Just for reference, the size is 15/38, and pit to pit measurement is 20".
     


  9. Jim Chu

    Jim Chu Senior member

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    The neck will be way too big in a 17 if you are a 16/41. I find the Isaia 6.5/41 to be too big in the neck and I am 16/41 too. Here's a thought, you can do Isaia MTM at Barneys. The price is just about the same and, the best part, they don't have a minimum number you have to buy for the MTM program. The only negative, they are extremely slow, taking more than a few a months.

    I've had every Isaia shirt I purchased from Barney trimmed by a tailor, finding them to be a bit large. So, this may be good for me.
     


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    +1 on the Barneys MTM. The 15.5/39 ISAIA fits me very well and i have not had to alter them or go on the MTM. I sometimes get the 15.75/40 which Saks has on occasion and do tailor them to take in the waist/sides.

    But anyways the Barneys MTM during their 2x/year events is pretty much the same price as RTW for dress shirts, suits, and pants so thats an excellent way to go. Its about 2 month waiting period for suits, not sure about shirts.
     
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  11. Jim Chu

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    Thanks for making that clearer. Utilizing the MTM 2x/year events is key for me. I could swear the last information I got about the shirts was...5 months...or something ridiculous like that. I've waited as much as 3. I think, IMHO, the material and richness of color (I love the solid pinks and blues) Isaia uses on its RTW shirts is surpassed by none, feels like wearing pajamas to work. : )
     


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    Jim you dont have to convince me about ISAIA stuff or the Barneys MTM :).
    I have been on a mission over the last 2 years to pretty much have a complete ISAIA work wardrobe and even a lot of the casuals largely through the Barneys MTM 2x/yr. Usully get a suit and a sports jacket at every event. Everything is great; the cut, the colors etc.... i could go on
     


  13. elsalvatrucha

    elsalvatrucha Senior member

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    Great minds think alike [​IMG]

    I am also trying to get a full Isaia wardrobe. i love the shirts but was not aware of the MTM from Barney's.

    As per the point on the neck, that was true as the neck fit well but the body was tight.
     


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    elsalvatrucha Senior member

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    Agreed on the color. Isaia also has pretty unique patterns that add a welcome change to daily workwear
     


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    Yes, they seem a bit trimmer. I went up a half size though and the fit is quite good.

    Today I tried on a Kiton and Isaia and I honestly found the Isaia to be competitive in many ways. The handwork is quite nice on both. The Isaia fabrics seem as nice judging just from the hand but that may be the selection from the Last Call sale I was shopping.
     


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