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Is this what the B&S Has Come To?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by jrd617, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Senior member

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    Good how this got swept under the carpet wasn't it?
     
  2. inimitable

    inimitable Senior member

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    Any ideas of what can be done?

    I think B&S needs either a redesign of functionality for search, categorisation etc or a return to the old merit based bumping system.

    I think the current format has turned off a lot of buyers
     
  3. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Senior member

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    I, amongst others, have come up with many excellent suggestions but as far as I'm aware they're falling on deaf ears because no-one gives a damn about B&S anymore; it's all affiliate affiliate affiliate.
     
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  4. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Fakes shouldn't be allowed.
     
  5. Joffrey

    Joffrey Senior member

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    A lot of the people I purchased from when I first joined have stores now or have moved on. I rarely bother looking cause the selection just isn't the same. The interface is shitty too. Anyway, I prefer buying from the likes of Howard Yount instead of buying some other brand he picked up while thrifting (I only mention Howard Yount cause I'm 95% certain he was my source for awesome ties 4-5 years ago).
     
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  6. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Senior member

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    B&S really needs more Mods...so much stuff posted in wrong categories clogging the place up.
     
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  7. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I purchased two wonderful pairs of shoes this year in popular sizes at a great price. I also just sold a nice jacket and raw jeans within 48 hours of posting. So B&S worked for me recently very well.
     
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    unjung Senior member

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    This thread makes me sad.
     
  9. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Senior member

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    Think this is the last time I'll bother to pay to become a "premium" seller on B&S.

    If the owners are bothered about my money, and no doubt countless of other sellers who no longer bother with B&S "premium" subscriptions, then something really needs to be done to improve that section of the site. Several members including myself have suggested simple things which would improve it considerably. However, I think the way this thread was completely swept under the carpet and the fact that nothing has been implemented despite the hundreds of dollars I and others have contributed just goes to show that the owners really aren't fussed so I'll be voting with my wallet. Not that I'm sure it bothers them since they sold the soul of the website to the affiliate hordes.
     
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  10. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    We care, and we will actually be doing a size filter and revamping the categorization filter. However, for the most part, it is just not feasible, right now, either financially or in terms of development resources, to implement a lot of the technical changes that have been suggested. A lot of these options are what you see on Ebay or Yoox, both of which are billion plus dollar businesses. We are considerably less flush, and share development costs with other sites, to boot.

    I tabulated all the good ideas, and they would cost over $100K in development, if we had the personnel to devote to it. We have neither. The total revenues from the B&S section are under $1K/m (it's actually closer to under $500, on average) and we work as a cash business. If you want to donate $100K+ to make some of these technical changes, then yes, we'd be happy to consider them more seriously. But, for example, making a "simple" token system, where people cannot bump all of their items simultaneously, requires that an entirely new core for the system be built up - that is thousands of programming hours, right there. Even businesses whose sole focus is in selling things (any store) work off of Shopify, Big Commerce, etc... and other commercial software. To built out a custom site costs at least $20K, and that is when you start with Magento. To build a whole new site, from scratch, is prohibitively expensive.

    "Simple things" are simple only conceptually. Execution is much more difficult.

    Our affiliate threads are enjoyed by most of our posters and readers alike - traffic and posting bears this out - and it adds value to the community. We've always been very proud of that system. This is an industry where retailers and brands often seen very remote. We allow consumers and brands to make a direct connection. However, if you don't like the advertising model for revenues, I would be happy to hear your other suggestions, as would any other publisher (including forums), of any size, out there. The subscription model doesn't work, and certainly would not work for us. If there is another option, that works, you will have revolutionized this space, entirely, and I'd love to get in on the ground floor on that.

    @marblehouse is the new B&S mod, and is helping us clean it up. If there are miscategorized items, etc... it's the job of the community to self-police. We've always had few mods and few rules, because members of the community realize that things like B&S benefit it. Are you willing to guide (not threaten or insult, but guide) sellers to make proper listings? If so, we'd be happy to designate you the "go to" guy for questions. If B&S works better, you should be able to sell more and better, so it would directly influence you.

    Cheers,

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  11. ter1413

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    I will just put this out there:

    How could a member really take this seriously......when the response to the original post came 1 month+ later(unless there was private PM communication)?
     
  12. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I am essentially in charge of *everything* on the forum, and responding to this complaint, which has no immediate *and* reasonable remedy, was not really on the top of my agenda. B&S has been on my list of things to lobby for development resources for enhancement of and fixes to for a long time, and we just got word that *some* development might be possible, so I thought that it would be a good time to post. Years ago, I used to post "we are looking into possibilities" regularly. But that is an answer that is satisfying to no one.

    Incidentally, if you want to start posting sizing conventions here, in the form:
    I'd really appreciate it. So, for example, someone might propose:

    Footwear; Japan; 25,26,27,28,29,30

    I am doing this with some others, but we really only have one shot at this, and probably no (or very slow) changes after it's set in stone, so we want to make sure that we get things right the first time.

    Cheers,

    Fok.
     
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