Is this pair of florsheim wingtips a good buy?

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  1. chenzhongbi

    chenzhongbi Senior member

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    As a newbie to shoes, I saw these Florsheim imperials on eBay. The link:
    Is it a good buy?
    Also, I found a member selling Royal imperials on B&S for a slightly higher price. Here:
    Which of these is the better buy?
    Any input would be greatly appreciated.
     


  2. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The pair on auction are calf leather, while the one in the SF listing is shell cordovan. Shell generally commands a premium over calf. But both are used, and the shell pretty well used, so the value is relative.

    I am not a Florsheim guy, but I would guess the calf ones are corrected grain. I would skip those.

    I am also not a used shoe guy, but I have seen complaints that used shell, once deeply creased, can cut into your feet. But others report buying used shell with good results.

    One major advantage shell has over CG leather is that it develops a nice patina with time.
     


  3. chenzhongbi

    chenzhongbi Senior member

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    Thanks Doc.
    What puzzles me is that the ebay seller also listed them as cordovans.
     


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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    They are cordovan color, but the fine creases show they are calf.
     


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    Coal_Mining_Polak Senior member

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    The first pair looks to be rather recent, in which case it is to be avoided. With Florsheim, go vintage 100% of the time.
     


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    As a rule, never buy corrected grain... never. I did once... then I found this forum. It was like the holocaust, never again.
     


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    I wouldn't buy either one, personally. 1st is cheap. 2nd is in kind of bad condition.
     


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    No I wouldn't buy. I might wear them if they were handed down to me for free but definitely would never pay for them.
     


  9. Steve Smith

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    The first pair is junk. They are recent make, imported shoes. The problem with the second pair is that even an edgy pair of shell cordovan shoes are somewhat pricey. Those are a project, but could be brought back. In answer to your question, the second pair would be the better buy. No contest.

    If you want Florsheims, I suggest that you find a pair of vintage calf longwings with decent heels and soles. The first thing to look for is that "Florsheim" be embossed on the insole rather than being on a sewn or glued in piece of fabric. The second is that the vintage ones are usually not shortwings. You should be able to ebay a decent pair of vintage longwings within a few weeks for $60 or less, $40 if you are lucky.
     


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    The pair on auction are calf leather, while the one in the SF listing is shell cordovan. Shell generally commands a premium over calf. But both are used, and the shell pretty well used, so the value is relative. I am not a Florsheim guy, but I would guess the calf ones are corrected grain. I would skip those. I am also not a used shoe guy, but I have seen complaints that used shell, once deeply creased, can cut into your feet. But others report buying used shell with good results. One major advantage shell has over CG leather is that it develops a nice patina with time.
    This is the answer. ^
     


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    The first pair is junk. They are recent make, imported shoes. The problem with the second pair is that even an edgy pair of shell cordovan shoes are somewhat pricey. Those are a project, but could be brought back. In answer to your question, the second pair would be the better buy. No contest.

    If you want Florsheims, I suggest that you find a pair of vintage calf longwings with decent heels and soles. The first thing to look for is that "Florsheim" be embossed on the insole rather than being on a sewn or glued in piece of fabric. The second is that the vintage ones are usually not shortwings. You should be able to ebay a decent pair of vintage longwings within a few weeks for $60 or less, $40 if you are lucky.


    I like these

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  12. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    ^^^Those look good.
     


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