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Is this edward green on bluefly?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by JohnMS, Apr 15, 2004.

  1. acole

    acole Senior member

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    GIFTBLUE22 is the only substantial deal I'm aware of (15% off).  You can also try SHIP4FREE for free shipping over $100.
     
  2. akrome

    akrome New Member

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    I was looking at the Bluefly website and comparing this model to a picture of the EG Cardiff's and at first glance they seem to be identical. I was actually in the process of buying a pair, but my eyes kept going towards the toe stictching and then I noticed that it is not identical to my own EG Cardiff's. They may still be made by EG and that is how they differentiate slightly, but I wouldn't want someone to pay $500 expecting something and possibly getting another. There is a picture of EG Cardiff's on the "Shoe photos" topic and you can judge for yourself.

    Hope this helps.
     
  3. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The toe medallion is different from the pair in the Shoe Photos thread. That doesn't mean anything. If you take a look at the Made to Order page in the EG catalogue with the 4 different Cardiff shoes, you'll notice that the shoe the second from the left has a medallion identical to the shoes on Bluefly while the others have medallions identical to the shoe in Thracozaag's picture. EG is very flexible when it comes to things like toe medallions, and I would imagine that there are a dozen different variations or more that you could select.

    The Bluefly shoes scream Edward Green. It looks exactly like the Cardiff models, and there are several other details that are distinctively EG (the wheeling -- or relative lack of it -- on the welt strip, the color of the leather, the antiquing, the shape of the toe, the shape of the heel, the way the shoe looks from the side). Without seeing the shoes in person, I suppose that I could be wrong about this and that they're not made by EG. I don't think so, though.

    Well, you can return things to Bluefly, so you can send them back if they're not satisfactory.
     
  4. JohnMS

    JohnMS Senior member

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    I have to apologize for my lack of ability on a calculator. I listed the EG shoes on Bluefly at around $382 with a coupon, which would suggest 25 percent off. The coupon is 15 percent off. I need to go back to accountancy school to learn to use a calculator.

    Thank you to those in the forum who sent me a PM to clarify this.
     
  5. JohnMS

    JohnMS Senior member

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    From an earlier post:

    I have called Bluefly and asked that they check their warehouse on the size 8 shoes to let me know what numbers are listed in the shoe (e.g., 7 1/2 - 8 or 8 - 8 1/2). If anyone is interested I will report back when (and if) I find something out.

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    I heard back from Bluefly just now regarding the Cardiff shoes. I inquired specifically about the size 8 they had listed. A. Harris mentioned that more and more RL shoes are being made in E width.

    Bluefly indicated that the numbering on the shoes they have listed as size 8 are as follows:

    7 1/2 - 8 D. Sounds like this particular version would fit on the narrow side according to information provided by Mr. Harris earlier.
     
  6. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    My Cardiff's have the exact toe medallion shown in the Bluefly picture.

    Very useful JohnMs, thanks. The Bluefly (American) size 12 definitely will not fit me so I'll skip on the black pair I was considering.
     
  7. acole

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    ...ditto Mr. Harris on the Bluefly size 12's not fitting my 13C foot. Â Argh. [​IMG]Â The 12's are gone now, anyway, in the antique brown at least...
     
  8. Internyet

    Internyet Active Member

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    Okay, so what is this "shoe shaper" that the shoe comes with? Is it a shoe tree, or what?
     
  9. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Purple Label shoes come with custom trees. A very nice extra - they would probably cost about $100 by themselves.
     
  10. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The thing that I've never understood about RLPL shoes is the relatively small markup when compared to other RLPL clothes. The shoes (at least the last time I checked) retail in the neighborhood of $850 to $900. The trees are included, and they're worth $75 to $100. Subtract the value of the trees, and the shoes are very close in retail price to EG-labelled shoes (much lower if you're talking about Jay Kos). Compare that to the markup on St. Andrews-made RLPL suits.
     
  11. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think the prices for RLPL shoes have risen to $850 to $900, can anyone confirm?? Still a good deal (at retail) when the trees are factored in. Maybe RL get's a special wholesale price...
     
  12. kabert

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    Is that a good deal? Recall someone posted a month or so ago about Richard's -- a high-end clothing/shoe store in Greenwich (or Darien?), CT -- that will order EG's (not RLPL's though) at a delivered cost of $675. When you factor in RLPL's use of last 89 and the inclusion of the shoetree, perhaps it's a closer call.... Either way, I certainly can't see calling EG directly to order shoes when Richard's can do it much more cheaply.
     
  13. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Well, remember that while Phil continues to be able to special-order EG shoes from Richard's for $695 per pair, TimelessRider was quoted a significantly higher price ($950 for Halifax boots, if I recall correctly). I think that the speculation is that Phil's pricing reflects his status as a long-time Richard's customer and is not generally available to most people.

    I know that I haven't been able to find special-order EGs for anywhere near that price, especially now with the precipitous fall in the dollar over the last year or so. In that context, $850 for EG shoes with trees is not unreasonable.
     
  14. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Since I have enough difficulty resisting EG shoes at regular price, there was virtually no chance that I would avoid buying ones in my size in a model and color that I've been considering anyway when they were available at a significant discount.

    The shoes came today, and they are indeed EG shoes. For some reason, they came in a Polo Ralph Lauren shoe box, which might account for the way that Bluefly listed them. They were marked 9 1/2-10D, but for some reason, they fit more like my 9.5 E EG shoes than my 9.5 D EG shoes. Perhaps it's the last (89), or perhaps it's because they're bluchers where my other 9.5 D EG shoes are balmorals. I don't know. It's curious that there were no shoe bags when they came with the RL shoe trees (which rank only behind the two Vass versions of the different models that I've seen) and with the standard EG polishing cloth, minus the EG logo. Oh, well. In any event, they're well-worth the price that I paid.
     
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    Do you think the two of us should establish a Twelve Step program of EGAA (Edward Green Addicts Anonymous)?
     
  16. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Hmmm, such a program could save me some money...
     
  17. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Do you think the two of us should establish a Twelve Step program of EGAA (Edward Green Addicts Anonymous)?
    Hmmm, such a program could save me some money...
    Yes, but you have to admit that you have a problem first. I don't have a problem. I can quit any time. [​IMG]
     
  18. Phil

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    Concerning the Edward Green pricing at Richards, this is the latest development. I had picked up my Halifaxes from Arlyne at Richards last week, and paid 695.00. This past Thurs. Arylne called me and told me a funny story about a guy who called her, saying that she was referenced on a internet fashion forum, and asked her if in fact the prices were correct. She quoted 695.00 for him also. She told me they simply dont mark up the shoes as much as other stores. I dont know how long the prices will last considering the severe markup at other stores, but hopefully we can all enjoy it for as long as it lasts.
     
  19. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm glad to hear it, and I hope that Arlyne gets more orders from Style Forum members. It's a testament to the power of the internet.
     
  20. bengal-stripe

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    True...That's what I always say...hick...after my 24th Budweiser.
     

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