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Is This Cool? American Gangster - Denzel`s Jacket w/Shoulder Patch

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Dragon, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. HomerJ

    HomerJ Senior member

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    A pocketsquare is not a hankie. It is a Square, for your Pocket. It's not an affectation because there are chest pockets on virtually all jackets. W/o a PS, these chest pockets serve no purpose (except to slobs who stuff pens in them or people who wear glasses half the time). The function of the PS is to occupy the pocket; the function of the pocket is to showcase the square. Are ties affected because they serve no utilitarian purpose? A better affectation case could be made for non-surgeons wearing functional sleeve buttons, or, when you get rigth down to it, nonfunctional sleeve buttons in general (though they have become so common now that there is nothing affected about them... that's how it works; it was once an affectation for a non-manual-laborer to be wearing jeans.)
    Yup, I carry a plain white handkerchief in my jacket pocket and I'd guess a lot of you do the same. Unless you've left them sewn shut! Affectatious bastards! [​IMG]
     
  2. bobby

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    Just like elbow patches, I am wondering if a shoulder patch is something I should consider getting for a casual jacket. I think it looks kinda cool. Thoughts?

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    On Denzel(and a few others), it looks incredibly cool.
    One man's affectation is another man's essential element.
     
  3. yachtie

    yachtie Senior member

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    Just like elbow patches, I am wondering if a shoulder patch is something I should consider getting for a casual jacket. I think it looks kinda cool. Thoughts?

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    He's just missing the 12 ga.side by side slung over his arm to complete the picture. It'd look really silly in the city.
     
  4. Recoil

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    I think he pulls it off based on the character/setting/time frame/etc.

    2 seconds later in the preview he's shooting a gun anyway.
     
  5. Toiletduck

    Toiletduck Senior member

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    Functional sleeve buttons, fiddleback waist, brogues, mechanical watches, double vents, belt loops on bespoke trousers,
    W/o a PS, these chest pockets serve no purpose (except to slobs who stuff pens in them or people who wear glasses half the time). The function of the PS is to occupy the pocket; the function of the pocket is to showcase the square. Are ties affected because they serve no utilitarian purpose?
    pocket squares, ties hehe
     
  6. mack11211

    mack11211 Senior member

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    What is the actual name of that style of leather patch?

    A shooting patch? Falconer patch? Rifle patch?
     
  7. LabelKing

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    A pocketsquare is not a hankie. It is a Square, for your Pocket. It's not an affectation because there are chest pockets on virtually all jackets. W/o a PS, these chest pockets serve no purpose (except to slobs who stuff pens in them or people who wear glasses half the time). The function of the PS is to occupy the pocket; the function of the pocket is to showcase the square. Are ties affected because they serve no utilitarian purpose?

    A better affectation case could be made for non-surgeons wearing functional sleeve buttons, or, when you get rigth down to it, nonfunctional sleeve buttons in general (though they have become so common now that there is nothing affected about them... that's how it works; it was once an affectation for a non-manual-laborer to be wearing jeans.)

    A pocket-watch.
     
  8. tweedlesinpink

    tweedlesinpink Senior member

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    What is the actual name of that style of leather patch?

    A shooting patch? Falconer patch? Rifle patch?

    yeah, i'm actually quite interested in the history behind that particular style of patch on the shoulder. anyone?
     
  9. Clark

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    I don't know the name of the patch, but I it is a feature on british tweed shooting jackets. You can request it today on for example Booksters tweed jackets. The british tweed suit is afterall made for shooting originally.

    /C
     
  10. Dragon

    Dragon Senior member

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    I think it is a distracting accessory. If you want a tweed jacket with details consider, suede elbow patches, throat latch, belows pockets, that sort of thing

    I didn`t even know it was for shooting, so I kind of thought the shoulder patch would be in the same category as all of the features you listed above.
     
  11. Panzeraxe II

    Panzeraxe II Senior member

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    Back in the day, gangsters wore shooting jackets because it was the appropriate thing to wear in a drive-by or if you're involved in a shoot-out with the constables. And it has gone downhill eversince.

    [​IMG]

    I remember when I was robbed at gunpoint in 1975. The crook had the good taste to use a custom Purdey. Nowadays these punks use Glock's.
     
  12. JibranK

    JibranK Senior member

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    He does do so. Watch the trailer, and you'll see him in a later/earlier part of that scene with a shotgun.
     
  13. JibranK

    JibranK Senior member

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    By "do so", I mean use a gun.
     
  14. AlanC

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    2 seconds later in the preview he's shooting a gun anyway.

    Yes, perhaps no one is considering that for his character it may very well be a practical consideration.
     
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    Edward Appleby Senior member

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    Most all of the "extras" that one can find on tweed jackets have their origin in shooting. Bellows pockets are for shells, elbow patches decrease wear when shooting from a supported or prone position (apparently people do still stalk deer in tweed suits, I saw a photoessay about this in the Double Gun Journal), and shoulder patches prevent snags and wear from shouldering a gun (I guess they do provide a tiny bit of recoil reduction as well.)
     

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