Is this a longer tie or just a tie with a different knot ?

[christianch]

Hello,
I am curious about the unusual tie or knot that is often feature in the pictures of this famous style blogger
example http://www.mnswr.com/mnswr-men-fabio-attanasio/
or
http://37.media.tumblr.com/2d9ebd8372ae24af289162eae9254d86/tumblr_n5geiinG9Y1s4kq7co1_500.jpg
thanks in advance

 

[comrade]

With a name like " Fabio" and all the Pitti appurtenances that this
goombah is wearing, one would think that he could get the tie dimple
right. To answer your question, it looks like a reular four-in hand knot.

 

[christianch]

Comrade,
I think it is in purpose - a bit like the style of the late Agnelli (the family that owns Fiat)
http://parisiangentleman.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Agnelli.png
so I think is just a different knot. Wasn't really sure

 

[comrade]

So another example of Sprezz. Like the Italian cars that were
imported without success to the US in my youth. Do you know
what FIAT stands for?

FiIX IT AGAIN TONY !

Maybe if the sainted Gianni Agnelli paid less attention to his look
and more to his cars, we would be all better off.

 

[jedwards]



With a name like " Fabio" and all the Pitti appurtenances that this
goombah is wearing, one would think that he could get the tie dimple
right. To answer your question, it looks like a reular four-in hand knot.

Fabio is a common name in Italy, much like Paul or John in English speaking countries, so I'm not sure what that reference is meant to imply about someone just from their name?

I read that guy's blog and if I have understood his aesthetic correctly, the tie here is probably meant to symbolise "sprezzatura" (something along the lines of being stylish and wearing good stuff, but conveying an air of non-chalance "i don't spend an awful lot of time on my outfits so sometimes I make mistakes with tie-knots).

Sprrzzatura has become a little bit forced since all of these tumblr blogs with everyone trying to out-Sprezzatura each other, but in my eyes its also a welcome reaction to the Mad Men style a lot of guys go for, where everything is super-starched, ironed and with perfect knot and tie clip for tie.

P.S. its a Four In Hand.

 

[Its WJW]



Fabio is a common name in Italy, much like Paul or John in English speaking countries, so I'm not sure what that reference is meant to imply about someone just from their name?

I read that guy's blog and if I have understood his aesthetic correctly, the tie here is probably meant to symbolise "sprezzatura" (something along the lines of being stylish and wearing good stuff, but conveying an air of non-chalance "i don't spend an awful lot of time on my outfits so sometimes I make mistakes with tie-knots).

Sprrzzatura has become a little bit forced since all of these tumblr blogs with everyone trying to out-Sprezzatura each other, but in my eyes its also a welcome reaction to the Mad Men style a lot of guys go for, where everything is super-starched, ironed and with perfect knot and tie clip for tie.

P.S. its a Four In Hand.

You are correct in that it is a four in hand, however, it's the double wrap variant of the four in hand. Unlike the tradition double wrap knot, though, he puts the blade of the tie through the second wrap rather than the first.

I'm saying this with blind confidence, but If I am wrong somebody let me know.