Is there a better sleep aid than Ambien?

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  1. Dakota rube

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    there's a sleep aid that is supposed to work as effectively as ambien, but has a shorter half-life in the body, called "halcion."

    Holy shit! They still make halcion? I experimented with that in the 70s, man.
     
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    i never felt like melatonin worked for me, but i really like GABA. 3-5 grams and 20 minutes. and its pretty cheap
     
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    there's a sleep aid that is supposed to work as effectively as ambien, but has a shorter half-life in the body, called "halcion."

    Halcion is a benzodiazepine, so since you're steering away from those, this isn't the best option for you.

    Try magnesium citrate.

    Yeah melatonin is crap.

    I take about 1.5 grams of mag citrate every night before bed, it knocks me out and I sleep very well. On nights that the magnesium isn't enough, I break a Benadryl tablet in half and take that.


    I don't understand this. Magnesium citrate is used for constipation or as a bowel prep- how is it going to help with your sleep? If anything, it would keep you up running to the bathroom.
     
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    Ok seriously, people can stop suggesting melatonin. I've been taking it for months and anybody who thinks it's even in the same ballpark as Ambien is delusional. It does virtually nothing for occasional anxiety-related insomnia, which is what I have. I am only interested in non-benzodiazepine prescription sleep aids.

    Bingo.

    Melatonin doesn't do squat for people with serious sleep issues. Or who are really tense and anxious.

    Ambien works.

    But every doc who prescribes it a lot says it can really trigger weird stuff in a sizable sub-population of patients. Like sleep-walking.
     
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    Try knockin one out before bed. Helps me sleep.
     
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    I don't understand this. Magnesium citrate is used for constipation or as a bowel prep- how is it going to help with your sleep? If anything, it would keep you up running to the bathroom.

    No, the amount you take as a sleep aid is much less than what you'd take to clear your bowels. I take 1.5 grams every night with no problems whatsoever.
     
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    No, the amount you take as a sleep aid is much less than what you'd take to clear your bowels. I take 1.5 grams every night with no problems whatsoever.

    i've been trying this for the last three nights. i do feel more relaxed, but it doesn't help me get to sleep. it is making me shit a lot though. everyone's different..
     
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    Yeah everyone's different. I sleep very well when taking Mag Cit. Normally I wake up throughout the night without it.
     
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    Ambien CR is the same as Ambien its just Controlled Release

    Ambien does have some wicked side effects (halucinations, amnesia) but crashing a car isn't one of them. Taking ambien and then driving is just stupid, not a side effect. It is very easy to OD on Ambien and then think its a good idea to drive I guess. Its also not a good idea to mix ambien with other drugs like morphine, trust me on that one.

    When you say you feel like crap the next day do you mean drowsy? I find this to be the case sometimes as well. I don't take Ambien every night though.

    Ativan or Lorazepam works for some people too, especailly those who suffer insomnia due to anxiety.
     
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    how about good old classic glass of milk?
     
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    Two calcium, magnesium, zinc supplements (CMZ?) every night seems to really help. Something about the ratio between the magnesium and calcium.

    Some valerian if I'm stressed. Found out that the sleep problems I've had my whole life was anxiety related and just a couple weeks worth of valerian nightly eventually put me on a much better sleep cycle...which in turn reduced stress.

    Tried the OTC sleep aids before and they all left me very groggy the next morning. No effects the next morning with the CMZ's or Valerian.
     

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