Is it possible to look good buying cheap clothing?

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  1. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    Do not buy odd vests. Wearing a vest without a jacket in the context of classic menswear and workwear is a bad idea. Maybe it works in some streetwear context, but not here.
     


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    +1. Not to mention that buying odd vests seems like a foolish use of cash when cost is an issue an OP is trying to expand his wardrobe.
     


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    +1 to this
     


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    It depends what your definition of 'cheap' is.

    Brands Suit Supply, Tie Bar and AE offer a lot of bang for buck IMO. If you stuck to the basics to give yourself some wardrobe flexibility you wouldnt be putting yourself out by much.
     


  5. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    oh really? here are some examples to hate on.
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    Let the hate begin!!! [​IMG]

    Good waistcoats can be had cheap, from thrifts or the 'bay. and they dramatically increase your options, especially in the warmer seasons. either with a 3-piece suit or by themselves. there is always a stylish fit to create .for the price of a SF "approved shirt", you could really look awesome. make your own choices. live it up, dress to impress. have fun in your new job. [​IMG]
     
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    +1
     


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  8. archibaldleach

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    Right, because OP is looking to be "weird vest guy" in his job. Give me a break. Vests are completely non-essential and one can be well dressed without owning a single one, so buying a vest makes no sense for someone who is cash constrained. This isn't about hating on your examples, even though some are pretty bad, but is about basic common sense budgeting. A basic trouser and shirt wardrobe is far more important than adding a vest. I'm amazed that this is even being debated.
     


  9. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    This is a weird debate to be having, people can offer different opinions, who knows, the O.P might just be a good looking guy.
    and on a warm day, a waistcoat can take the place of a jacket, so you don't look like you left it somewhere. [​IMG]
    because having your tie loose looks really professional. -LMFAO.

    and budget? i suggested getting into the thrift store bragging thread, as the great guys in there would be glad to help him out for way less than buying new stuff like new t.m lewin shirts.
    you are telling him he needs $$$$$$ worth of "approved brands" . and i am saying "save money,buy more, add later. give yourself options." also congrats on a new job,and good luck.

    see fits by Seajen, gmmcl,spoopoker, and orgetorix. to see just how stylish a man can be.-there are others. but they own it. they mix and match. and none of them would be "The weird guy".
    i have the ultimate respect for how they represent themselves. and for a new guy like the O.P. they are great leads to take inspiration from.

    myself? i wear what i want, anywhere. i have confidence in my own style. and do not water it down for fear of standing out. so, a 3-peice suit with sneakers? anytime. and a pocket square/tie to match my shoes? of course[​IMG].- deal with it.

    this is styleforum. where people have style, if you want to frown on people for dressing in their own interesting ways join a "boring clothes forum" .
     


  10. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    I agree most emphatically with this. I consider myself reasonably well dressed and am certainly regarded as such by friends, neighbors, family and even strangers. I do not own a single vest, nor have I any plans to acquire one.

    Any guy who starts out routinely wearing a vest in a casual or dressy casual office is most definitely going to be characterized as the "weird vest guy." Vests are okay for a very casual, sort of cowboy-ish look and with three piece suits for those who fancy them. At least, so it seems to me. For that matter, I don't much like three-piece suits, although if I lived in colder climate, I might feel differently.
     


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    Wow, just...wow. :facepalm:

    1) Vest replacing jacket on a hot day? Flat out wrong. A waistcoat can add to a look with a jacket but does not work on its own in the classic menswear context to replace a jacket. Walking around with an odd waistcoat when it's hot makes no sense.

    2) With respect to budget, you seem to not understand the concept of acquiring staples before purchasing things that are more exotic. This is really basic stuff and it's rather sad that it has to be explained more than once. When you are cash contrained, going out and acquiring odd vests when you don't have enough basic staples like trousers or shirts is just foolishness. OP needs basic staples that work. If OP wants to thrift for shirts and trousers, he can do that too. Regardless, he will be using his money more wisely if he buys trousers and shirts than odd waistcoats. If he wants to wear 3 piece suits and the occasional odd vest eventually, that's another matter. I'm only talking about what makes sense now.

    3) The posters you cite are people who already have good wardrobes and for the most part excellent taste. They are not at the beginners stage. Buying an odd vest at a thrift shop is not going to turn OP into Spoo anytime soon. You're really failing to factor in the OP's circumstances here...again. There are a lot of people on SF one could be inspired by. It's up to OP to find out who inspires him once he's in a position to build his wardrobe.

    It's absurd to accuse me of frowning on people for dressing in their own interesting ways simply because I'm attempting to be a voice of reason and point out the importance of acquiring staples to someone with limited resources before branching out into things that one does not need and can be well dressed without (odd waistcoats). You can be well dressed without an odd waistcoat or any waistcoat at all; you cannot be well dressed without shirts and pants. IMO your odd waistcoat suggestion is absolutely awful advice for someone in OP's position.
     


  12. UnnamedPlayer

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    impossible to look good in cheap clothing

    entirely possible, and advisable, to look good in clothing that is cheaper than much more expensive pieces.
     


  13. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    how did i miss this awesome post????
    absolutely right.

    also,
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    well, yes i can.
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    Shirt: Paul smith.
    Vest: Banana Republic (part of a complete 3-peice)
    Tie: Robert Talbot 7 fold
    Pants Brioni 150's Flannel (i have the jacket too)
    Belt: Brown leather /gold buckle/ brand unknown.
    Shoes: Brown Nike's. (because i can)
    watch: Seiko marvel.
    Ring : Tiffany and co, platinum and gold. 6mm
    total cost excluding watch/jewelery,shoes? -around $90.

    with these 2 suits, sometimes mixed. with different shirts and ties.there is a lot of choices to keep fresh at work . i now have 7 suits and 4 sports coats.
    not saying the O.P should dress like me, just buy the way i buy stuff. check the thrift thread, make some friends on there. check ebay. go thrifting, buy on sale. go to clearance outlets.
    and get an almost full wardrobe for around $500 to start. - i have maybe spent about $1.200 in total up to this day. and it seems like i have too much choice.

    so hate if you want, but i put my style where my opinion is. this was never about vests, it is about the faction of SF that are overly pretentious, and brand oriented. or just too conservative. ie: lacking a unique style. disagree? post some fit pics to help the O.P out. [​IMG]
     


  14. msulinski

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    Size 38R, You are obsessed with odd vests. You seem to be recommending them in every thread you post in. No matter how much you try to convince others that this is OK, it doesn't stop you from looking ridiculous in them. If you are going to play the "wear whatever looks good to you" card, you would be better off at the Ask Andy site.

    BTW, your pic looks bad for 2 reasons: the odd vest and the sneakers.
     
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  15. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    please tell me of these other threads?

    like i said, this is not about waistcoats, as much as you want it to be. if i added the Brioni Jacket, and my florshiems you would change your tune. and i do look good. just not to guys who dress like Ron Burgandy. having a great position at work let's me wear what i want. and i am still over dressed. sneakers? Denim with orphans? international business? yes i can. and do.
    have you mentioned anything of the positive words towards the O.P? no. advice on saving money? no. telling him to feel good in his own style? no. so what good can you contribute? none.
    i don't dress to impress the likes of you, just myself and those i meet daily. as do most here. so hate on me,because haters gonna hate.
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    . we are here to accept and encourage others as they grow in their own style. The O.P will hopefully wear clothes with confidence. and benefit from it in his daily life.

    pretentious conservatives lacking taste or individuality ruin the fun for others.
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