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Is Gin or Vodka a gentleman's drink?

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Flame, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. mr_economy

    mr_economy Senior member

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    That the martini implies gin. M8
    Because I am presently at work and do not have access to the printed sources that have said this, I'll have to settle for a Wiki (I know, I know): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_cocktail *edit* I was beaten to it by two minutes.
     
  2. Martinis at 8

    Martinis at 8 Senior member

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    Because I am presently at work and do not have access to the printed sources that have said this, I'll have to settle for a Wiki (I know, I know):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_cocktail


    Wikpedia! [​IMG] Just kidding I have seen the reference before. Actually there is quite a bit of debate about the issue. I am not sure which came first, but I do think it was probably vodka because grain spirits were more costly than potato vodka in the past. In fact most vodka itself, until the early 60's was refined from potatos, whereas grain vodka came in later in the game as costs fell. Now potato vodka is again viewed as high quality since the refining process has improved with brands like Chopin.

    The shaken not stirred debate still rages on. I personally think 007 ordered his martini shaken because he mixed in potato vodka with the gin. The potato vodka back then was somewhat oily, so shaking it would disperse the oil. I don't believe in the bruising myth.

    I can attest however that when ordering a "dry martini" in the UK it is served in a highball glass with gin and vermouth. It is not served in the type of goblet that is seen in my avatar. However, I am not sure what someone in say Boliva would expect in their martini [​IMG]

    Nice topic.

    Cheers,

    M8
     
  3. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    I can't remember who said it first, but vodka is the hard liquor of choice for teenagers and other serious lushes.

    Many many girls I know love to buy Karkov vodka, which is $3.99 a liter or $6.99 for a 1.75. All girls I know love to drink (mostly cheap) vodka, therefore, I find it really hard to consider a man's drink.

    Also, it seems chotchy-ass frat boys with no taste love to drink Ketel One and Redbull, or some other premium vodka that has a reputable name.

    Whiskey, Brandy, Rum, or Beer for me.
     
  4. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    With all due respect to Polish distillers and to your liquor predilections, if your drink is concocted with vodka, it ain't a martini.

    Well said.

    If gin and tonic is a ladies drink, then I am a 6-2, 230 pound lady.
     
  5. Martinis at 8

    Martinis at 8 Senior member

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    I would consider gin or vodka as a gentleman's drink, provided there's not an umbrella in the mix [​IMG] As I type this, right now I am having a Jack Daniels on the rocks. Cheers, M8 P.S. Ms. M8 like MacCallan's 18-yr. old Scotch served neat. That is certainly not a ladies drink! [​IMG]
     
  6. Saucemaster

    Saucemaster Senior member

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    Ms. M8 like MacCallan's 18-yr. old Scotch served neat. That is certainly not a ladies drink! [​IMG]

    Ms. M8 has very good taste. I can't get The Saucemistress to get anywhere near whiskey of any sort, much less single-malt.
     
  7. Nantucket Red

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    Gin is a gentlman's spirit; vodka is for peasants.

    Hope that clears up any confusion.

    Waitrons who ask me if I want my martini mixed with vodka or gin (usually asked in that order, too) I have impaled and I enjoy nursing my martini to the sound of their screams.

    I'm always disappointed to be served a martini that contains an olive without a pit. While it doesn't warrant a slow, agonizing execution, I always feel ripped off when my martini finishes in a anemic, emasculated little olive, and the situation is only somewhat ameliorated if it is fitted with a pimento prosthetic.

    My daily constitutional is a gin & tonic. When I mix my own martinis, I use Hendricks gin and Lillet blanc stirred and served in an Orrefors Intermezzo martini glass garnished with a Spanish olive.

    For mixing gin & tonics, I usually use either Bombay Sapphire or Plymouth. The other day I got some Van Gogh, which is pretty good stuff and the bottle can't be beat.

    Otherwise I drink cognac.
     
  8. chrysalid

    chrysalid Senior member

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    G&T and V&T, in my opinion transcend gender affiliations. to go slightly off topic, can anyone recommend a less sweet brand of tonic water? the only stuff i ever buy is schweppes, but i hate getting furry teeth and too much sugar makes me twitchy.
     
  9. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    G&T is perhaps my favorite cocktail. I like it with a good dose of fresh squeezed lime juice. Bombay Saphire or Tanqueray, which is often on sale at my liquor store. Yum.
     
  10. Kid609

    Kid609 Senior member

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    If it's clear or brown, it's a manly cocktail.
     
  11. chrysalid

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    is a pink gin a manly cocktail? i can't think of one female i know that would ever drink one
     
  12. globetrotter

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    is a pink gin a manly cocktail? i can't think of one female i know that would ever drink one


    very manly, but not that common anymore, at least in the places I find myself
     
  13. marc237

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    I find the whole discussion of "manly" drinks somewhat missing the point. It is just a drink after all. Sometimes I prefer aged bourbon straight up, sometimes a cosmo, sometimes a good martini. I think it is the drinker and not the drink that determines manliness.
     
  14. chrysalid

    chrysalid Senior member

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    have you seen the 'girl-drink-drunk' kids in the Hall sketch?
     
  15. The False Prophet

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    I see why military men like the G&T. Virtually hangover free. I've thrown them back til two or three in the a.m., up at six to be in court by nine, and fared pretty well...

    I don't know many ladies who prefer gin to vodka. They tend to be...how you say...wife material!
     
  16. Walter

    Walter Senior member

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    A man's drink is whatever you enjoy drinking. As opposed to something you drink because it is cool/masculine/hip to be seen drinking.
     
  17. Nantucket Red

    Nantucket Red Senior member

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    A man's drink is whatever you enjoy drinking. As opposed to something you drink because it is cool/masculine/hip to be seen drinking.

    I can honestly say that I have never ordered a drink in order to be seen drinking it.

    What I drink is a matter of pleasing my palate.

    Most women I've met prefer far sweeter, less potent stuff.
     
  18. tiger02

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    ^ Agreed. If you can taste the alcohol, it's not a girly drink.
     
  19. chrysalid

    chrysalid Senior member

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    you can taste the alcohol in Cheeky Vimto...and that's gotta be about as girly as they get
     
  20. Homme

    Homme Senior member

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    Can someone tell me how 'Gimlet' is pronounced? Is 'gim' like 'gym' or 'jim'; or with a hard 'g' as in 'gun' ?
     

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