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Is Denim really this complicated?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jtran33, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. jtran33

    jtran33 Member

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    If you're trying on one wash or sanforised jeans, make sure they fit tight because they will stretch.
    If you're trying on raw jeans, make sure they fit well because they will shrink after the first hot soak and stretch out again after a bit of wear.

    Depending on the jeans, they may never get back all the way to the raw size or they may stretch to bigger than when raw. Some jeans just stretch more than others, so before you leave, read up on the brands and models you are interested in to find out how much people think they end up stretching and compensate based on that.

    Finally, ALWAYS do one hot wash (with or without detergent) or at one hot soak of raw jeans before wearing them to destruction.


    So this is the way I want to size it? Can anyone confirm? Should I just ignore the other post with the APC fitting method?
     
  2. Orange

    Orange Senior member

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    So this is the way I want to size it? Can anyone confirm? Should I just ignore the other post with the APC fitting method?

    You could but if we're talking 250+ dollar jeans you'll regret it. You have to break jeans in no other way around it.
     
  3. laphroaig

    laphroaig Senior member

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    The jeans will shrink as in contract. The fabric themselves do not shift lol. The destruction will look different but I don't see how they would be in the wrong spots so to say.
    Jeans shrink in length as well as in width. They will shorten by several inches in a hot wash and everything on the legs will move up. Of course, if you want to pamper your jeans, i.e. never get them wet and never wash them (especially in hot water) and plan to just dry clean, then you don't need to get the shrinkage out before wearing and just start of raw. But that is too much effort for jeans. They are meant to be abused.
     
  4. bb_jai

    bb_jai Member

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    wow, didn't know there was so much to denim till recently and it seems like a very interesting process on developing a specific pair you like
     
  5. Spilotro

    Spilotro Senior member

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    Get some 514's first, then move up to the more expensive jeans.
     
  6. Brian SD

    Brian SD Senior member

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    It's much simpler than it sounds. It's just that when people are searching for top notch shit and dropping 200 bones + for their jawnz, the nuances really become apparent.
     
  7. Homme

    Homme Senior member

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    ^ I think it's forum paranoia rubbing off on newbies, more so than money.

    Denim isn't complicated. In fact, it could probably be summarized in 3 steps:

    1) Buy jeans
    2) If jeans are not pre shrunk, soak jeans. If they are pre shrunk, no soak necessary.
    3) Wear jeans.
     
  8. izlat

    izlat Senior member

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    No kidding it can be complicated...

    For you:
    1. B/e Japan: research to narrow down choices
    2. In Japan: listen to the store associate (but I'm not sure if all of them can be trusted?)
    3. In Japan: try diferent jeans (but be aware that the fit would generally change)
    4. In Japan: still got Internet - post questions here [​IMG]
    5. Finally: yes, be prepared that you may not get it "juuust" right the first couple of times; some people are lucky and get what they like (or get used to what they got), others are less lucky or maybe more demanding

    You may also be able to sell the jeans here if they don't work out...

    Just for reference, let me give you a personal example: (among others) I have Diesels Rabox and Levi's 501 both in waist 32. Rabox falls off (vanity sizing?), 501 is a bit loose after the washer and dryer (= before stretching from wear, then even looser, of course). I was looking for something with a normal / higher rise and am very happy with the forum recommendation to try Sugar Cane Okinawa (Japanese repro 501 from '47) - it was dead on. A couple of other recommendations from the forum had features that I don't think look good on me - like low back pockets. I.e. - you still have to make a decision on your own [​IMG]

    So: when I was researching for Sugar Cane size, I was told that they are true to size, and also that they are smaller than tagged. I got Sugar Cane in 32 (which is larger than my true size right now)and in retrospect they could certainly be 31 and maybe even 30. Fit is not exactly what I wanted, but they still fit *well* - just don't hug my thighs and butt as much as I wanted. The original 501 was not designed to hug thighs and butt too much, so I'm closer to the *intended* fit than my ideal *interpretation* - that's OK

    Personally - if I'm buying these again I would go for a smaller size. BUT: by then I may have gained weight / muscle, or dropped - my weight varies. So you never know...

    I hope this helps
     

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