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Is Brown becoming slowly the new Black?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by lasbar, Oct 18, 2006.

  1. riotshield

    riotshield Well-Known Member

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    Any suggestions for a good dark brown, contemporary cut (with flat front pants) suit for under $500? I was watching old episodes of Six Feet Under and really liked the dark brown suit that Peter Krause's character wears from time to time.
     
  2. lasbar

    lasbar Senior member

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    It is most likely a very expensive suit he is wearing and that is the problem when we're searching for a particular look....
    I do know some designers inclined to flat front pants such as Prada or Gucci but the price tag is $1800
     
  3. Joel_Cairo

    Joel_Cairo Senior member

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    Any suggestions for a good dark brown, contemporary cut (with flat front pants) suit for under $500? I was watching old episodes of Six Feet Under and really liked the dark brown suit that Peter Krause's character wears from time to time.
    H&M has a 2-button brown herringbone suit for like $250, I believe. Nice details (ticketpocket, i really like the lapel width and button stance) But it depends what you mean by "good". The quality falls somewhere between unfortunate and insulting. I bought it, because I liked the cut and figured "well, if ever there was a suit to NEVER DRY CLEAN EVEN ONCE, it might as well be a brown one." I now have the idea suit for mid- September through mid-November.
     
  4. Joel_Cairo

    Joel_Cairo Senior member

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    Incidentally, on the topic of National Socialism and fashion, anybody know the history behind Hugo Boss? Kinda gives a different vibe to something like this, no?
     
  5. lasbar

    lasbar Senior member

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    I do understand why this brand is more based on pure form than on quality and substance...
    Adolf Hitler ,Benito Mussolini and others understood very quickly the power of fashion,the need of projecting different values and concepts through their uniforms....
    The Gestapo and their long leather coats ,the SS and their "Skull and bones", the Afrikakorps and their sandy tones...
    They're still powerful today as symbols and also as pieces of garnment whatever are your convictions....
     
  6. nemuu

    nemuu Senior member

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    Incidentally, on the topic of National Socialism and fashion, anybody know the history behind Hugo Boss? Kinda gives a different vibe to something like this, no?
    Hugo Boss, like many German industries during (and before) the war manufactured for both the SA and (I believe) the SS. Needless to say, the nazis had some pretty smoking uniforms.
     
  7. lakewolf

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    I tried to force me to wear chocolate brown shoes today with my navy suit... as going out I saw me on the full body mirror.... they looked weird,
    I came back from the door and put me a pair of black ones... they look much better... sorry black-haters...
     
  8. Joel_Cairo

    Joel_Cairo Senior member

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    Hugo Boss, like many German industries during (and before) the war manufactured for both the SA and (I believe) the SS. Needless to say, the nazis had some pretty smoking uniforms.

    Indeed, but unlike many of the companies we all know (I myself drive a VW), Boss was made by the contract to produce SS uniforms. He was a struggling tailor on the brink of going-out-of-business until he got that gig. In 1945 he was tried as a War Profiteer and stripped of his German citizenship.
     
  9. mensimageconsultant

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    Browns are perfectly fine when worn away from the face - meaning shoes, belts, watch straps, etc. It's with the suit, shirt, and tie (or pullover etc) that one needs to be more concerned. EVery colour can be worn in the context of the outfit - do the pieces complement or neutralise each other? That probably doesn't convey my meaning but I'm not sure how to better say it. The most important function of rules like Flusser's or whoever's is not to set tight restrictions but to communicate the underlying logic of some of those rules and the associations with them that will affect how other people perceive you. I think a black tie with a white shirt can look amazing on people with high contrast complexions, yet not always does one wish to appear so strikingly lit up. One may want to look "washed out" one day and proceed to defy Flusser's advice. I suspect a guy who knows that much about what look he imparts can wear contrarian outfits well. Attitude trumps all.

    Finally, darker browns work very well with Asian complexions. Chocolate turtlenecks, for example, can be very striking.


    Arguably another "function of rules" is to free people from the paralysis of analysis that keeps many men afraid to go beyond very basic (sometimes too basic) attire.
     
  10. LabelKing

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    Hugo Boss, like many German industries during (and before) the war manufactured for both the SA and (I believe) the SS. Needless to say, the nazis had some pretty smoking uniforms.
    Numerous companies did such as Leica, Zeiss, Mercedes-Benz, Telefunken, etc. The Nazis probably had some of the most well-designed uniforms out of any military power; they also had interesting colors like powder blue.
     
  11. muelleran

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    Numerous companies did such as Leica, Zeiss, Mercedes-Benz, Telefunken, etc. The Nazis probably had some of the most well-designed uniforms out of any military power; they also had interesting colors like powder blue.
    I think the German Army had the best designed uniforms, they had them before the nazis came to power. The ss uniforms are a mere derivative of that uniform. The nazis only introduced dress uniforms with ties for the ss and the reinstated Luftwaffe, but that did not not improve the style in my opinion. The true nazi design, the sa uniform is pretty ugly, so is the color they choose: brown. They picked brown shirts because black or blue shirts were already used by their fellow fashists in other countries. Edit - afterthought: The typical nazi during their rise to power was an ex soldier from ww1 from a lower middle class background who was unable to prosper in the post war society. Just like Hitler, the unemployed post card painter and wannabe architect from the homeless shelter. These people didn't design sh*t.
     
  12. lasbar

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    Uniforms,fashion ,music have always been good media to promote an idea,common values and political aspirations...
    It all started with the Egyptians,phenicians,Greeks or the Romans who were aware of the symbolic values of uniforms,colours,flags,ranks in terms or be recognized ,adored or frightened of....
    They were fighting Barbarians who did not have the same sense of order,labels and were not as politically astute and advanced....
    If the Barbarians had been more organized,politically structured using efficient political tools ,the Roman Empire empire would have had collapsed earlier...
    Colours are very important ,that is the reason we're so attached to the notion of flag,uniforms and ranking emblems....
    Even now ,we're still attached to fashion designs colours ,shapes and they're helping us to build a sense of belonging on which every commnunity is based.....
    Even here on this forum ,there are tribes....
    The casual smart ,the Brown shoes brigade ,the Black only ,the John Lobb ,the C&J,Berluti ,Kiton fanatics and these shoes are attached deep social and nearly philosophical values ....
    Regimes are using these symbolic codes to their own advantages....
    Gestapo leather uniforms ,SS skull and bones to inspire terror and panic ,brown shirts ,black shirts ,red flags to show an oath....
    Colour sometimes are speaking to us quicker than words...
     

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