Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by mussel, Mar 21, 2012.
If you use AT&T dial *639#
We should acknowledge that the Lightning to 30 pin adapter is overpriced at $30. It's also much larger than I was expecting and hoping. I already pre-ordered one for my bedroom dock.
The size is fine, but yeah they ended up being more expensive then rumored. Luckily, I only need one.
Why is the first part dumb? It's a general problem, no? If you create a beautiful product but have to protect it with a "so-so beautiful" case to properly use it, there definitely is a problem. It's probably better to create a product in between usefulness and design, but apparently more people are attracted to the beautiful product (which is completely understandable...) that has to be protected. Just an idea, nothing more, nothing less. If you don't agree that's cool.
The backup wasn't meant to be a critique directed at the iPhone. Rather that many people don't really know what it is. Again, you can disagree. Peace. What do you do without wifi access?
I don't get the last part of your reasoning. What does this have to do with Android and iOS? You can do it at both. Both have 500k+ apps. You may call me an asshole and piece of shit, but that's alright. I just think it's a good idea to first evaluate a thing in "reality" and then decide whether you want it or not. Whether it's some piece of code or a new TV. No fan of blind buys all that much. Especially considering what a shitload of crap is out there in form of apps. BTW, more people that I know who've got iPhones "do it", in comparison to Android users. FWIW, I currently have 2 apps on my smartphone, both of which are free to use -- funny, eh? And really, your way of talking with people doesn't come handy when you're trying to start a conversation (or were you just throwing insults at me?). You don't know what I do, how much I abuse, how many apps I've bought -- so why do you think you can analyse me because of one sentence that mostly was directed at jailbreaking that iPhone to get at least the minimum personalization possible and access to some great apps from cydia, which actually, and that may surprise you, can cost money too, even if it's in "bad guy-territory" for you.
I might be wrong about the size. In person it could look much smaller. It just looks bigger than I expected in that photo.
Leica makes beautiful cameras. Does the fact that one can break if you drop it take away from this fact?
Macbook Pro's are beautiful laptops. Does the fact that one can break if you drop it take away from this fact?
There are any number of devices I can name off here. It's not a good argument.
All phones can break. All phones that have glass screens can see them shatter. No one has solved this. The fact that Apple hasn't doesn't take away from the fact that it's a beautifully designed phone. [/quote]
You specifically called out Apple's iCloud backup system when pointing out issues some carriers may present with their LTE plans in regards to data throttling. The argument you presented was that these backups are on by default and that "lots of data gets sent back and fourth." It's dumb because, as of now, iCloud backs up over Wi-Fi and not the cell networks. If that ever changes, then you would have a point in regards to these automatic backups.
This statement promotes piracy and stealing from the developers of these programs. Attitudes like this are shit.
I think we probably were better off to drop the "discussion", but it may actually (maybe) lead to "something" productive, so some more gibberish inside the spoiler...
Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!
First of all, I never said that it's not beautiful. Sir Ive does a great job. It may not be to everyone's taste, but it's definitely among the best of the "clean styles".
I don't know what Leicas and Macbook Pros have to do with the iPhone, but I think you haven't understood what I was thinking about out loud. Have you ever seen someone stuff their Leica in a silicone casing? Or their Macbook? See, that's really not what I meant. I mean beautiful products that get a lot of use and therefore have (?) to be protected not to break. I think that's basically what's been talked about a lot in the last few pages, so I'm not sure where my statement or opinion differs, maybe you can enlighten me. I just concluded (IMHO) that as of now, people would rather buy a beautiful product and protect it with an ugly casing than buy a less beautiful phone that has similar specs and doesn't have to be protected. (True, probably the wrong thread, because as of now there are no different current iPhone designs to choose from)
Now one could argue that many of the people who case their iPhone do it to increase the value when they resell it (some may even fake an issue to get it replaced, or so I've heard.. real POS too), or because the phone did cost more than they actually can afford and therefore it would be a huge loss if it broke (most <18 people).
Well, duh, it's the iPhone thread and I've learned that I shouldn't speak about other devices in here. Moreover, I tried to spread some knowledge by explaining something about how it works in Germany, and I understand that you don't give a fuck. And again, no wi-fi means no backups? I'm not sure I'd want to back up all the personal data over a 3rd party wifi access, but YMMV.
I don't respond to your ojfc comment, because you haven't answered the question I've had for whatever reason. Still don't get it. I promote piracy by telling people to support good devs? Well that is a creative interpretation. So the "Or don't." part is what makes you tilt? Cross that one then, because it's not really specific whatsoever.
Piracy is rampant in the Android ecosystem because it's easy to side-load apps. Few Android apps that have a fee make much money because of this. Piracy is less of a problem with iOS because it's not as easy to do. Thus developers are making much more money with iOS apps. It's one of the reasons that most developers focus on Apple's platform first even if Android handsets are selling very well.
Your statement was encouraging people on this forum to jailbreak their iPhones and use that as a method to not pay for apps. It's a shit attitude.
EDIT: I'm done with you. The nonsense you have been spreading in this thread is giving me a headache and I really don't care anymore.
The best part of upgrading from the 3G to the 4 was the massive improvement in speed/responsiveness (incidentally, it's those features that make androids feel so ghetto in comparison to iphones). Very excited to see how much it will improve with the A6 chip.
I think iPhone 4 users who upgrade are going to be impressed with the speed improvements. Not as much the iPhone 4S users as those handsets were already plenty fast in day to day operations.
I've dropped my iPhones numerous times. Never had a broken screen. Generally I've had them in cases (Vaja, Mophie, Magpul). I've seen people with busted screen iphones and other phones.
I had hoped that the leaks were a ruse. I want two handsets I can switch my sim into - an "iPhone Pro" the size of the iPad Mini, and an "off-duty" phone based on the iPod Nano form factor. Something that would work like the old Nokia 7280, but using Siri as the main interface.
Seems to me that the future of phones, once they finally fix Bluetooth, is that the phone transceiver itself would be just a small brick, and you could link different interface modules to it. In other words, a small wireless modem, a headset, a tablet, a smartwatch or other input devices switchable at will. Buy and use only what you need at the time and upgrade components when necessary.
You want an iPhone with a 7.85" screen????
I'm not one to get into these spec games because it's the overall experience that matters, but this is interesting food for thought. If I wasn't getting the 5, I would probably take the hardest look at the Lumia 920. That's one sexy phone.
Yes. Used with a smartwatch and headset, you wouldn't need anything else outside the office.
boy, we're getting pretty worked up in here over a phone
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