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iPhone 5

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by mussel, Mar 21, 2012.

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    I think I still have a Startac. That thing was THE SHIT!
     
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    DCG your LTE coverage improving any?
     
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    Negative. In fact, my phone hasn't worked for shit today. Must be some cell towers down as a result of Sandy.
     
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    Mouse you'll find this interesting: I didn't know about the pricing when it was originally released, as I thought they were on-contract prices, but it seems that the phone will be available for $300 or $350 UNLOCKED. That makes this amazingly more appealing than an iPhone 5 at the $650 price point. I think this is the ground you were wondering if Google could cover against Apple. Well here you go...

    http://slickdeals.net/f/5402284-NEW-Nexus-4-299-8GB-349-16GB
     
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    Well yes, it's unlocked pricing. Surprised you just found that out.

    That's great and all, but also offer a LTE version.
     
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    i thought the $299 was the contract price. I'm actually shocked that they're offering it that cheaply. Hell, on Newegg today, the unlocked 16GB Samsung Galaxy S3 is going for $450. And that's not nearly as good of a phone as this is.

    Don't you think that coming in and undercutting the iP5 pricing is going to spur major sales?
     
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    Unless the Nokia 920 comes in at a similar price it looks like I'll be switching to Android when I get back. State of the art phone for 1/2 the price of the iPhone. That's a no brainer.
     
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    It's great pricing Rambo. They are being extremely aggressive with it. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it sells well. There is a market for unlocked phones.

    To be honest, I don't think you understand what the underlying issue here is.
     
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    do remember who you're speaking with. the point I was making is that the fantastically aggressive pricing will be more than enough to overlook the lack of LTE and/or the compromises that Google made with the carriers. Think about it, you save $300 up front and use some MVNO for $40 a month. AND your phone is as good as an iPhone 5? People are going to be all over that like it was a $250 lcd tv at best buy on black friday.
     
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    I'm fully aware who i am speaking with. Thats why I am surprised you have missed the point here. You represent the type of consumer the Nexus 4 will have success with, but you are not a representation of the masses.

    The mainstream mass consumer market in the USA will continue to buy phones at carrier stores. This won't change fundamental buyer habits. Without carrier retail outlets and marketing strength the Nexus 4 won't reach the mass market.

    I want to see handsets with stock Android get pushed to the larger audience. I don't see it happening without Google making the deals needed with the carriers. They are a necessary evil in this way.
     
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    jesus mary and joseph you're a hardheaded bastard. first off, the masses currently buy more phones at target/walmart/apple/bestbuy/AMAZON than anywhere else. Those are the main points of purchase. Secondly, T-Mobile will in fact be selling it in their stores and I believe AT&T will get it eventually but I'm not positive on that point. Third, and I don't know how you can't see the forest for the trees on this, but every fucking google search, gmail page, G+, etc. will be PLASTERED with adverts for the phone. And Amazon will be selling it at some point if recent history holds. Yes, of course they don't have the marketing budget and retail cachet that Apple does. But to think that they won't be able to get the word out on this bad boy is just silly. Now, we're obviously in agreement on the larger audience point, but I addressed that earlier - they sacrifice all the other models of phones to the manu's and have them deal with the carriers. They keep this one as their baby. Its a numbers game, and Google's winning. Don't forget that.
     
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    Yep their winning the numbers game. That's what happens when every Tom, Dick and Harry manufacturer has access to make phone with your OS.
     
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    Got my phone and have been playing with it for an hour or so. Definitely a huge improvement over my BB. My only complaint so far is that the cord is woefully short and just barely reaches from my outlet to my nightstand.
     
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    I learned it from watching you, dad!



    This statement goes against everything I have read and heard up to now. I'm going to go ahead and pull a CE and ask you to provide some evidence to back this claim.

    I believe it might be true with Apple stores and the iPhone, but that's a special case.



    Well T-Mobile's going to be a HUGE help in pushing those numbers. :rolleyes:

    Let me know when you find anything concrete on AT&T and the date they are to carry it.


    Again, carrier retail stores and the hands on marketing push the sales reps provide will be missing. I'll wait for the evidence to be provided that carrier chains are not still providing the bulk of handset sales in the USA.


    Keep in mind that the subject that you and I are debating here is the Nexus 4, not the Android platform as a whole. You refereed to it as a drop in the hat earlier and I think that's a bad way of looking at it. The handset is Google's own baby and the sole one they have direct control over. It's one of the few you can get in the USA that runs stock Android and it's important. As I said, I want it to do well and I am pointing out some reasons related to the moved Google made that I believe will limit it's possible success.

    Yes "Android" as a platform has sold more handsets in the world then any other. No one is disputing that. Now how you define "winning" certainly can be, but I would rather not get into the weeds here.
     
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