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Info: Best Ties List

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by heard546, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    Robert Talbott Seven Fold ties should be in Tier 1 no doubt. Hermes and Bvlgari in Tier 1? What does this list use for requirements? Quality or name status?


    Quality, quality quality, IMO
     
  2. Limniscate

    Limniscate Senior member

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    Where would Paul Stuart fall?
     
  3. antirabbit

    antirabbit Senior member

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    I am a huge fan of Domenico Spanno ties (Drakes I think).
    I just picked up a 6 fold hankerchief tip, unlined for a song. Basic red and white striped.
    Hot Action.
    Also, I picked up the Oxxford Crest ties at Off 5th for $35 dollars, they are amazing ties.

    So, I think this list would be huge, and way to subjective to construct.
     
  4. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    I would move Hermes from Tier 1 to Tier 2 which shows how subjective this list would really be.

    I dont know why. The construction quality is good and the silks are among the best in the world.
     
  5. 1400PennAve

    1400PennAve Active Member

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    Would it be too much work to put why one tie is better than the other, or at least, why one tier is?

    I agree...It seem like you just listed some brands...not that i'm saying that anyone in here are BRAND WHORES!!!!!
     
  6. ManofKent

    ManofKent Senior member

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    Where would you put Dunhill, Hardy Amies and Liberty?
     
  7. AJL

    AJL Senior member

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    Paging iammatt -- I don't see any Seaman & Spearn.

    I believe you meant Semen & Sperm. Their ties have an unusual, crusty hand, and a vaguely mushroomy odor. Odd.
     
  8. mkarim

    mkarim Senior member

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    I believe you meant Semen & Sperm. Their ties have an unusual, crusty hand, and a vaguely mushroomy odor. Odd.

    LOL... [​IMG]
     
  9. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    RLPL tier 3?

    they have two different lines of PL ties that i know of, one retails $245 and the other $175. I dont have any experience with the $245 ties, but i do own some of the $175 ties, and they're easily of the same quality or better then the Brioni's i've come into contact with.
     
  10. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    RLPL tier 3?

    they have two different lines of PL ties that i know of, one retails $245 and the other $175. I dont have any experience with the $245 ties, but i do own some of the $175 ties, and they're easily of the same quality or better then the Brioni's i've come into contact with.


    +1 -- move it up
     
  11. babygreenspots

    babygreenspots Senior member

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    I thought that Altea and RLPL would be more like tier 2 or at least a bit better than some of the other tier 3s. Ted Baker is made in China.
     
  12. harry2quinn

    harry2quinn Senior member

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    Okay, I'm bored. Ties are my personal passion among any other article of clothing. When I go to stores, I shop almost exclusively in the tie section.. so I'm throwing my two cents in about how each of these rates on the parameters, and reordering the list. This is completely subjective, of course. Except for the fact that I am the EMPEROR of all that is, and you all should really listen to me. If I don't have enough experience with a brand, I'll label it NEI. Someone else please feel free to classify as they see fit I'll leave others who know better to reclassify and rate those. I'm not rating by prices, I've just ignored that parameter. Weight Material Colors Style Patterns Prices Rating Scale 5 = Excellent 4 = Great 3 = Good 2 = Satisfactory 1 = Nothing special Tier 1 Kiton 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 Borrelli 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 Tier 1.5 Hermes 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 Brioni 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 Turnbull & Asser 4 | 5 | 4 | 5 Stefano Ricci 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 RLPL 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 Tier 2 Massimo Bizzocchi 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 Charvet 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 Holliday & Brown 4 | 5 | 4 | 5 Robert Talbott (the sevenfolds and Best of Class lines) 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 Zegna (but not the Villa Bolgheri line) 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 Canali 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 Versace 3 | 5 | 4 | 4 RL Polo (Blue Label) 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 Tier 3 Ike Behar New York 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 Hickey Freeman 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 Prev ranked 1 Attolini NEI Isaia NEI Marinella NEI Prev ranked 2 Breuer NEI Isaia Napoli NEI Nicky of Milan NEI Luciano Barbera NEI Drake (their 50-oz. model is hefty) NEI Bulgari NEI Prev ranked 3 Altea NEI Pucci NEI FIHTies NEI Dolce & Gabbana NEI Zegna Villa Bolgheri line NEI Hugo Boss NEI Faconnable NEI Duchamp NEI Ted Baker NEI Paul Smith NEI Robert Talbott Chelsea line NEI Brooks Brothers NEI Jhane Barnes NEI Vineyard Vines NEI
     
  13. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Are you giving weightier ties more points?
     
  14. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I am a huge fan of Domenico Spanno ties (Drakes I think).
    I just picked up a 6 fold hankerchief tip, unlined for a song. Basic red and white striped.
    Hot Action.

    Also, I picked up the Oxxford Crest ties at Off 5th for $35 dollars, they are amazing ties.

    So, I think this list would be huge, and way to subjective to construct.


    I bought this at the Saks sale, too.
     
  15. harry2quinn

    harry2quinn Senior member

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    Are you giving weightier ties more points?
    No, I judged the weight measure by what is more of a comfortable weight for me. Borelli 7-folds are kind of heavy, maybe a little too much so, for example. In my opinion, Kiton's are on the money in terms of weight. But I guess it's possible that I kind of like heavier ties. Like I said, this is just a list of how well I like these ties.
     
  16. vitaminc

    vitaminc Senior member

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    Are you giving weightier ties more points?

    seems to be the case...

    some cheap j crew ties make better knot than the RLPL ties I have...

    but i like my marinella cashmere tie...
     
  17. harry2quinn

    harry2quinn Senior member

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    seems to be the case... some cheap j crew ties make better knot than the RLPL ties I have... but i like my marinella cashmere tie...
    Huh... my RLPL makes the best knot out of any tie I have except maybe the Kitons. I guess it really is the luck of the pick.
     
  18. overdog

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    I have a Lauren tie that knots better than my RLPL tie. The RLPL I have is made in England (supposedly by T&A), yet it refuses to hold a dimple.
     
  19. bmulford

    bmulford Senior member

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    Are you giving weightier ties more points?

    I'm waiting for the cargo-pant ranking.
     
  20. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Weight Material Colors Style Patterns Prices

    Rating Scale
    5 = Excellent
    4 = Great
    3 = Good
    2 = Satisfactory
    1 = Nothing special



    Tier 1
    Kiton 5 | 5 | 5 | 4
    Borrelli 4 | 5 | 5 | 5

    Tier 1.5
    Hermes 4 | 5 | 5 | 4
    Brioni 4 | 5 | 5 | 5
    Turnbull & Asser 4 | 5 | 4 | 5
    Stefano Ricci 5 | 5 | 4 | 4
    RLPL 5 | 4 | 5 | 5

    Tier 2
    Massimo Bizzocchi 4 | 4 | 5 | 4
    Charvet 5 | 4 | 4 | 4
    Holliday & Brown 4 | 5 | 4 | 5
    Robert Talbott (the sevenfolds and Best of Class lines) 4 | 5 | 4 | 4
    Zegna (but not the Villa Bolgheri line) 4 | 4 | 5 | 4
    Canali 5 | 4 | 4 | 5
    Versace 3 | 5 | 4 | 4
    RL Polo (Blue Label) 3 | 4 | 4 | 4

    Tier 3
    Ike Behar New York 3 | 3 | 3 | 2
    Hickey Freeman 4 | 3 | 3 | 2


    The problem is that ties from makers like Kiton, Borrelli and Brioni can vary quite a bit, so it is hard to rate them. I can say, however, that Stefano Ricci ties are uniformly disgusting: too glossy, too thick, and too wide. They only go with Stefano Ricci clothes, and those are even more disgusting.

    I largely dislike Hermes ties, but they've put out some really nice, atypical stuff over the past year (I was tempted, but the prices were too high). Stll, the classic Hermes tie (with little hippos, carriages, or H's) is pretty terrible.
     

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