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infertility

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by matadorpoeta, May 27, 2006.

  1. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    why is there so much infertility in america? they're actually advertising infertility clincs on the radio here. is this an epidemic?
     
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    globetrotter Senior member

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    1. people wait to have kids

    2. I think people just accepted it in the past, now they know that it is treatable.
     
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    It's not just the US. The UK, for example, also has issues.

    I agree with globe that it has a lot to do with people putting off childbearing until later in life, and there is greater pub of it these days. Drugs has at least a little to do with it, too.
     
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    An unhealthy lifestyle is the main reason why so many men's semen quality is simply too low to reproduce. Smoking, too little exercise and unhealthy food all lower the sperm count (or whatever it's called in english).
     
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    The government puts chemicals in the public water as population control. Inner city neighborhoods get the highest concentration, suburbs and rural areas get less, and the wealthy areas are unaffected.

    Similarly, the cheap-o bottled water from Wal-Mart has a high concentration of the chemical, but expensive water such as Fiji has none.















    Oh wait, this isn't Current Events...[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I'm gonna go get some cheap-o Wal Mart water. BBIAB.
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Agree with Globetrotter:

    1) Many people, especially among the professional and academic classes (i.e. those with means) are putting off having children well past the natural prime. This is the target audience of these ads.

    2) People are not accepting infertility as as intractable problem.

    3) The pill deliberately messes around with a woman's menstrual cycle. Research into the longterm implications of this type of contraceptive is ongoing, but smart money says that there are effects on fertility.
     
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    I'm gonna go get some cheap-o Wal Mart water. BBIAB.

    So when you return w/ the water, will you be BBWNR?
     
  10. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    3) The pill deliberately messes around with a woman's menstrual cycle. Research into the longterm implications of this type of contraceptive is ongoing, but smart money says that there are effects on fertility.


    good point too
     
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    The stats I have in memory for infertility are 1/3 is her fault, 1/3 is his fault, 1/3 is both of them. There is a long list of things that can go wrong.
     
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  13. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    Agree with Globetrotter:

    1) Many people, especially among the professional and academic classes (i.e. those with means) are putting off having children well past the natural prime. This is the target audience of these ads.

    2) People are not accepting infertility as as intractable problem.

    3) The pill deliberately messes around with a woman's menstrual cycle. Research into the longterm implications of this type of contraceptive is ongoing, but smart money says that there are effects on fertility.


    so infertility is going up. it's not just my imagination. maybe it's time to start having kids earlier and ditch the birth control pills. i don't want to sound like i'm against IVF, but wouldn't most prefer to have their children au naturel?
     
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    so infertility is going up. it's not just my imagination. maybe it's time to start having kids earlier and ditch the birth control pills. i don't want to sound like i'm against IVF, but wouldn't most prefer to have their children au naturel?


    damn right, but nobody believes it is going to happen to them. My sister has 5 or 6 points against her - her age, several health issues, etc, and she doesn't beleive that she will have any problem, once she starts trying. I know several people who are in the same position.
     
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    so infertility is going up. it's not just my imagination. maybe it's time to start having kids earlier and ditch the birth control pills. i don't want to sound like i'm against IVF, but wouldn't most prefer to have their children au naturel?


    Without the research in front of me, I would hesitate to draw a link between more ads for fertility clinics on the tv and radio and an increase in infertility. As the saying goes, correlation does not equal causation. I think it is as Globetrotter said: people know it can be overcome, and I will add: they have the money to do so. I suspect if you are in medical school and comtemplating what field you are interested in and include your expected earnings, fertility might be high up there for the $$.

    Just my economist's point of view.

    bob
     
  16. matadorpoeta

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    you misundertand me. i was not drawing a direct link between the radio ads and infertility going up. the fact that i personally know many couples who have done this, plus the fact that i heard an ad on the radio, led me to ask the question here. then, laguy posted a response giving the reasons for the increase in infertility.

    i quoted his reasons for the increase and deduced that my hypothesis was correct.

    this isn't scientific and i know we don't have a true answer yet.
     
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    Without the research in front of me, I would hesitate to draw a link between more ads for fertility clinics on the tv and radio and an increase in infertility. As the saying goes, correlation does not equal causation. I think it is as Globetrotter said: people know it can be overcome, and I will add: they have the money to do so. I suspect if you are in medical school and comtemplating what field you are interested in and include your expected earnings, fertility might be high up there for the $$.

    Just my economist's point of view.

    bob


    Yes.

    Let's also mention surrogacy, here. Prepare to start from zero with a new mouth to feed.
     
  18. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    Without the research in front of me, I would hesitate to draw a link between more ads for fertility clinics on the tv and radio and an increase in infertility. As the saying goes, correlation does not equal causation. I think it is as Globetrotter said: people know it can be overcome, and I will add: they have the money to do so. I suspect if you are in medical school and comtemplating what field you are interested in and include your expected earnings, fertility might be high up there for the $$.

    Just my economist's point of view.

    bob



    we have two seperate couples of friends where the woman is in her mid forties or higher, and family income is probrably in the $200K range. they have dropped maybe $20K on various treatments, without even getting into anything involving a knife. they might end up spending $100K per baby by the end.
     
  19. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    Incest.
    is that the problem or the solution?
     
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    is that the problem or the solution?

    A little from column A and a little of column B.

    Jon.
     

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