Thanks for your observation. I simply feel that budget-concious men, like me, can do so much better than what these low-budget MTMs are offering. They're offers are an illusion, especially when they say: "Compare at $1695". There is no comparison. They are targeting the market segment least likely to know how to value shop. Now, if I could get the real $1695 suit for $500, I'd have a real buy. That's the sad part. Enough with the blatantly obvious already, n00b! People know what they're getting when they deal with this sort of place. They don't need you telling them, ad nauseum, what they already know!