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In this thread: The suits of James Bond and whether he should always be well tailored.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by MickeyPunch, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. MickeyPunch

    MickeyPunch Senior member

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    Read somewhere that Daniel Craig wore his suits in two different sizes depending on whether it was an action scene or not.
     
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    I can see that making sense. To my mind, a tailored suit fits well at the price of restricted mobility. Craig would certainly need to size up for the action.
     
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    NaTionS Senior member

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    They would have a dozen or so suits tailored for each specific type of scene, ie. fighting, motorcycle riding, etc...
     
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    venividivicibj Senior member

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    A good tailored suit doesn't limit mobility. Bonds Tom ford suits are terrible. Very fashion forward. And a size or two too tight
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Whether one thinks they are terrible or not, I would argue that they are in keeping with the character, as reimagined for today's audience and played by Daniel Craig. James Bond is not by breeding or inclination a very "classic guy". If I remember his backstory, he is essentially a orphan kid who is trained to become some sort of special ops guy, and he is routinely insubordinate. A tight Tom Ford suit, a bit flashy (he also has rather flashy tastes in cars and women) seems right for the character.
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    venividivicibj Senior member

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    of course, I was saying from a traditional standpoint, they do not fit. From a character standpoint the new (craig) bond does tend to exhibit those traits. Yeah, orphan, both parent killed - laters finds out they were also agents (or at least his father was, i forget), and he joins up as well.
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Sure, I would agree with you. I would also say that the character should be dressed as the character, not as an exemplar of classical dressing. I may be biased since I find the Daniel Craig Bond a lot more compelling than any other Bond character. Every other Bond has bored me.
     
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    Dalton was the best Bond with the best suit fit.

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    You can have a flashier suit that actually fits well though. The Tom Ford stuff often just didn't fit very well on Daniel Craig -- too much waist suppression, lapels pulling away from the chest, etc. It often looked like a bad alterations job, rather than the kind of stuff Tom Ford is actually famous for.
     
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    venividivicibj Senior member

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    No Connery?
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I like old Connery. That is a man. Young Connery is a boy. No, I like the grit of Daniel Craig a lot more.
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    That is the way a lot of flashy guys like their suits to fit, though. From a classicist POV, it makes no sense, but it could be a deliberate choice. If you go to sites like SuitSupply's, for example, according to traditional standards, all of those suits are too small. I suppose that you could say that it was a botched tailoring job, over many suits, but given the resources put into play to make a James Bond movie, it seems difficult to believe that wardrobe botched all of the suits, and then said "You know what? Screw it. It looks fine."

    I guess that if you see James Bond as a style icon above anything, then yes, there is a complaint to be made. But if you see James Bond as a more fleshed out character, a self-made man of sorts, with a chip on his shoulder and a penchant for mayhem and flash. then the suits make a lor more sense.
     
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    Ehh .. I feel like I'm reasonably open minded about how a suit can fit and how designers can reinterpret things. Some things are just bad tailoring.

    If you take that extreme of a relativist view (ie "that's just how some guys want their suits to fit"), then it's impossible to judge anything. You could say that for books, movies, music, art, etc -- yes, these things are all subjective, but you can also reasonably say some things are good and some things are bad.
     
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