Yea, I don't like cheap ties either. Only Tie Your Ties 7-folds with vintage/deadstock fabrics for me.Or buying a $135 tie.
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Yea, I don't like cheap ties either. Only Tie Your Ties 7-folds with vintage/deadstock fabrics for me.Or buying a $135 tie.
This pic is from No Man Walks Alone and is the really nice looking NMWA x Sartoria Carrara suit in brown.I definitely gravitate toward these looks, as well as Stoffa and Saman Amel. The only challenge is whether this would be in line with my internal clients. I don’t recall where I found it, but this is directionally where I would like to go:
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Chore coats and overshirts seem to be an option for filling this void, especially for BC. Why not? I fully expect to see people in my office adopting athleisure into business casual, since it is now common on video conferences.
That helps! NMWA is another source of inspiration for me, clearly.This pic is from No Man Walks Alone and is the really nice looking NMWA x Sartoria Carrara suit in brown.
lol dont get me wrong I like a nice tie and I will spend $100 + but it has to be really nice. I will spend $34 on a new BB special edition tie now.Yea, I don't like cheap ties either. Only Tie Your Ties 7-folds with vintage/deadstock fabrics for me.
lol dont get me wrong I like a nice tie and I will spend $100 + but it has to be really nice. I will spend $34 on a new BB special edition tie now.
And eBay Ive gotten a **** ton of nice looking used ties mainly from Brooks Brothers, Rooster etc for less than $10 I only spend $$ if I want Grenadine or something fancy.You can frequently find good ties from reputable makers in thrift shops for next to nothing.
I liked Derek’s comment about folks just removing their tie or jacket and calling that BC. I prefer to start from the ground up and wear a more casual pair of trousers, maybe a polo sweater or patterned shirt I wouldn’t wear with a suit. Add a sport coat if it’s not too hot out.Anyway, I think the point that is worth repeating is this: Business casual, despite justifably receiving a lot of hate here, isn't all bad. Given that one of the reasons we dress at all is to fulfill social roles, and increasingly those social roles call for business casual, it is imperative that we think of ways to make business casual as good as possible, and remember that most men who wore classic menswear probably weren't as well dressed as Sean Connery and Peter O'Toole.
Moreover, there is a sense that sometimes wearing CM in an environment where BC is expected could be detrimental to one's social standing. It isn't always a plus to outclass those around you--especially those who hold power over you, such as bosses and supervisors.
In that sense, I think Dieworkwear's suggestions are good, and we should probably come up with some ways to make BC work better for those who are compelled, in a sense, to adopt this often unflattering uniform.
That being said, I really think you can probably get away with wearing a jacket to improve your silhouette even in a BC environment, especially if you aren't wearing an especially formal shirt underneath; however, if that isn't an option, there are other ways of looking good which, if we worked hard, we could develop.
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A shirt will of course be closer to the very soft, unstructured silhouettes discussed above because it has literally nothing underneath. So it will just reveal your body.
Any brands and/or easily accessible aesthetics for this? I know Derek mentioned DBF.I'm definitely with DWW on this. I think you are better off going one way or the other than nowhere. Either go for the advantages of tailoring, however dressed down, or go for the luxe side of SW&D, and things that may evoke aspects of CM but are really about colour texture, fabric and silhouette etc. Business casual isn't style, it's the absence of style.