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Important question about brown

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ernest, Jun 27, 2005.

  1. JLibourel

    JLibourel Distinguished Member

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    Absolutely, you should believe him, Ernest. I liked in Texas for five years, was married (briefly) to a farmer's daughter there, and spend a fair amount of time with California rednecks. Believe me, there is nothing that Joe Bob, Bubba, Buford and Cooter would rather have than a bespoke Glenn plaid suit in shades of brown and a good pair of Edward Green antiqued shoes in brown. In their world, that is the equivalent of bagging a 12-point buck, catching a 30-pound bass or nailing a Daisy Duke-lookalike. [​IMG] I will add that only the lowest and most degraded of white trash--methamphetamine users and like--shop the Allen-Edmonds outlets, where they invariably favor brown or chili. Dogfighters, however, (or so I have been informed) favor burgundy cordovans, especially the Allen-Edmonds MacNeil, because the cordovan is relatively impervious to the blood and the burgundy color doesn't show the stains.
     


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    (ernest @ June 27 2005,06:46) A friend of mine told me that "brown is only worn by farmers and rednecks, white trash, peckerwoods, hillbillies, and hicks". Should i believe him?
    Absolutely, you should believe him, Ernest. Â I liked in Texas for five years, was married (briefly) to a farmer's daughter there, and spend a fair amount of time with California rednecks. Believe me, there is nothing that Joe Bob, Bubba, Buford and Cooter would rather have than a bespoke Glenn plaid suit in shades of brown and a good pair of Edward Green antiqued shoes in brown. In their world, that is the equivalent of bagging a 12-point buck, catching a 30-pound bass or nailing a Daisy Duke-lookalike. [​IMG] I will add that only the lowest and most degraded of white trash--methamphetamine users and like--shop the Allen-Edmonds outlets, where they invariably favor brown or chili. Dogfighters, however, (or so I have been informed) favor burgundy cordovans, especially the Allen-Edmonds MacNeil, because the cordovan is relatively impervious to the blood and the burgundy color doesn't show the stains.
    LMAO
     


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    I think brown can go wrong very easily. I think we've all seen some very ugly brown suits. But I also think that, when done properly, it can be magnificent. My favorite suit is a brown three-piece with contrasting chocolate-color vest.

    Beyond that, I love brown shoes with everything but black suits. I've now reached the point that I avoid black shoes whenever possible, to the extent that I see little reason to invest in good ones. Give me oxblood, or mahogany, or cigar, or good ol' plain dark brown.
     


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    (ernest @ June 27 2005,06:46) A friend of mine told me that "brown is only worn by farmers and rednecks, white trash, peckerwoods, hillbillies, and hicks". Should i believe him?
    Absolutely, you should believe him, Ernest. Â I liked in Texas for five years, was married (briefly) to a farmer's daughter there, and spend a fair amount of time with California rednecks. Believe me, there is nothing that Joe Bob, Bubba, Buford and Cooter would rather have than a bespoke Glenn plaid suit in shades of brown and a good pair of Edward Green antiqued shoes in brown. In their world, that is the equivalent of bagging a 12-point buck, catching a 30-pound bass or nailing a Daisy Duke-lookalike. [​IMG] I will add that only the lowest and most degraded of white trash--methamphetamine users and like--shop the Allen-Edmonds outlets, where they invariably favor brown or chili. Dogfighters, however, (or so I have been informed) favor burgundy cordovans, especially the Allen-Edmonds MacNeil, because the cordovan is relatively impervious to the blood and the burgundy color doesn't show the stains.
    Heh heh eh he he heh heh.... He said "Cooter".
     


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    (ernest @ June 27 2005,06:46) A friend of mine told me that "brown is only worn by farmers and rednecks, white trash, peckerwoods, hillbillies, and hicks". Should i believe him?
    Absolutely, you should believe him, Ernest. Â I liked in Texas for five years, was married (briefly) to a farmer's daughter there, and spend a fair amount of time with California rednecks. Believe me, there is nothing that Joe Bob, Bubba, Buford and Cooter would rather have than a bespoke Glenn plaid suit in shades of brown and a good pair of Edward Green antiqued shoes in brown. In their world, that is the equivalent of bagging a 12-point buck, catching a 30-pound bass or nailing a Daisy Duke-lookalike. [​IMG] I will add that only the lowest and most degraded of white trash--methamphetamine users and like--shop the Allen-Edmonds outlets, where they invariably favor brown or chili. Dogfighters, however, (or so I have been informed) favor burgundy cordovans, especially the Allen-Edmonds MacNeil, because the cordovan is relatively impervious to the blood and the burgundy color doesn't show the stains.
    Don't forget the bespoke Cleverley Russian calfs worn by Billy Ray and Boo as they ambush lost Northerners along lonely mountain rivers. [ begin festive-yet-frightening banjo plucking ]
     


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    Actually, the men who were ambushed in 'Deliverance' were also southerners, but they were "city slickers." Further, I'm pretty sure the mountain men were wearing chestnut antique Edward Greens. And they weren't bespoke - too fancy.
     


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    Don't forget the bespoke Cleverley Russian calfs worn by Billy Ray and Boo as they ambush lost Northerners along lonely mountain rivers. [ begin festive-yet-frightening banjo plucking ]
    Actually, the men who were ambushed in 'Deliverance' were also southerners, but they were "city slickers." Â Further, I'm pretty sure the mountain men were wearing chestnut antique Edward Greens. Â And they weren't bespoke - too fancy.
    They were from the South? Man, it has been a long time. And I was quite green (.) when it comes to identifying footwear.
     


  8. JLibourel

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    Given the known popularity of brown apparel with "rednecks, white trash, peckerwoods, hillbillies," et al., it makes me wonder whether there is any truth in these persistent rumors I keep hearing to the effect that the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan are going to be adopting BROWN robes in place of white.

    On reflection, it would kind of make sense. Aside from being the favorite color of low-class rural America, it was also the the signature color of the Klan's ideological kinsmen, the cruel Nazis.
     


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    They plan to merge with the Franciscans.
     


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    JLibourel: I know this is all in jest, yet the KKK preceded the Nazis by about 60 years. So, it may be the Nazis copied them.
     


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    Burlap is the new wool.
     


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    I was kind of cogitating on this thread late yesterday evening, and it did occur to me that there is kind of a double-standard at work here. A few days back Ernest used some slurring terms towards Arabs and other Middle Easterners and he was sternly admonished by J that he would be banned if that kind of thing persisted.

    Ernest opens this thread with just about every slurring term in the book (with the exception of "crackers") for poor white, rural Americans (especially Southerners of this description), and everybody treats it as a big joke, including yours truly. No stern admonitions from J or Steve B. Nothing.

    Inconsistent but not altogether unsurprising.
     


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    kind of surprised me as well.  Still, it's pretty hard to take the term "peckerwood" seriously in this day and age.  I'd submit it's easier to see how "sand [email protected]" could offend.  Just maybe. Not to mention that the same persion who uses such a term probably is not going to limit his/her discrimination to the Maghreb, Sahara, Saudi peninsula and Near East countries bar Israel, which roughly speaking constitute areas of Arabic people and sand, but rather tar all brown-skinned people with the same derogatory brush.
     


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    (JLibourel @ June 28 2005,10:31) I was kind of cogitating on this thread late yesterday evening, and it did occur to me that there is kind of a double-standard at work here. A few days back Ernest used some slurring terms towards Arabs and other Middle Easterners and he was sternly admonished by J that he would be banned if that kind of thing persisted. Ernest opens this thread with just about every slurring term in the book (with the exception of "crackers") for poor white, rural Americans (especially Southerners of this description), and everybody treats it as a big joke, including yours truly. No stern admonitions from J or Steve B. Nothing. Inconsistent but not altogether unsurprising.
    kind of surprised me as well. Still, it's pretty hard to take the term "peckerwood" seriously in this day and age. I'd submit it's easier to see how "sand [email protected]" could offend. Just maybe.
    Jlibourel and L'homme RJ make an excellent point.
     


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    (RJMan @ June 28 2005,10:43)
    I was kind of cogitating on this thread late yesterday evening, and it did occur to me that there is kind of a double-standard at work here. A few days back Ernest used some slurring terms towards Arabs and other Middle Easterners and he was sternly admonished by J that he would be banned if that kind of thing persisted. Ernest opens this thread with just about every slurring term in the book (with the exception of "crackers") for poor white, rural  Americans (especially Southerners of this description), and everybody treats it as a big joke, including yours truly. No stern admonitions from J or Steve B. Nothing. Inconsistent but not altogether unsurprising.
    kind of surprised me as well. Â Still, it's pretty hard to take the term "peckerwood" seriously in this day and age. Â I'd submit it's easier to see how "sand [email protected]" could offend. Â Just maybe.
    Jlibourel and L'homme RJ make an excellent point.
    Louder than gathered waters, Or bursting peals of thunder, We lift our voice and speak our joys And shout our loving wonder. Shout, all our elder brethren, While we record the story Of Him that came and suffered shame, To carry us to glory.
     


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