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I'm designing shorts, seeking input

For shorts, what material would you wear?

  • 100% linen

    Votes: 17 68.0%
  • 95% linen + stretch

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • 100% cotton

    Votes: 19 76.0%
  • 95% cotton + stretch

    Votes: 9 36.0%
  • 100% synthetic swim fabric (I wear swim shorts even when not swimming)

    Votes: 7 28.0%

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    25

emptym

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I have some swim shorts from Onia that have a plain waistband and internal drawstring (w/ metal grommets). It is a nice combo for swim shorts. For regular shorts, I prefer button adjusters, and one rear pocket, as with this linen pair from Luxire:
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I also like a small extended button tab on the front for regular shorts, but a snap is ideal for swim shorts imo. Definitely no belt loops.

For fabric, I voted linen, but imo, a cotton/linen blend would be ideal, particularly in a natural, heathered, oatmeal color. Khaki twill or stone poplin are classic too, imo. For swim shorts, I prefer patterns, ideally in shades of gray/black, like these from Onia and Patagonia:
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Shades of blue, red, or green could be nice too.
 

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Kent, are you thinking about revising the swim trunks and then using that pattern for non-swim fabrics?
Pretty much.

It's possible that non-swim shorts could have different features like rear pocket with button instead of zipper, but I'm not sure if it's really necessary. I go skateboarding and like the security of a zipper over a button.

I think it is possible to offer an internal drawstring in a swim short at $75 as long as the styling and fabric/hardware are of good quality. Look at how much people are willing to pay for drawstring casual trousers right now. Drawstring closures on trousers used to be reserved for sweatpants, and that’s no longer the case.
Yeah drawstring casual trousers have seen a recent boom. I'm inspired by that. I think they can be done well if they're internal (hidden).
 

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for swim trunks. But linen swim trunks make no sense. I thought the whole purpose of this discussion was non-swim shorts. Draw strings and no belt loops reduces your market of people looking for casual shorts. $75 casual shorts with draw strings is not something I would be interested in. I can't think of any shorts other than jersey workout shorts that have a draw string. So, draw string, at least to me, has a connotation of 'cheap' in shorts. They just don't fit at that price point to me
the drawstring is essential on boardshorts...

edit: i might as well plumb this a bit more. having spent quite a lot of time in the ocean and pools, swimming surfing etc is a pretty big thing for me here's my .02:

all of my trunks (including speedos and drag suits) are synthetic performance fabrics, some with stretch some without. all are quick drying, shed sand n salt easily, and aren't inherently chappy. hard to imagine wearing new linen in the ocean seems like a recipe for rash

without something to tune the waist up the ocean will peel those trunks right off ass, believe it. no matter how snug when dry trunks will open up a bit in the water. i wouldn't buy anything with buckles i want everything to be soft so i do like a drawstring. i'm not crazy about velcro fly and prefer a gusset. a key loop is very common and a great notion, preferably in a small pocket and consider a drain hole at the bottom.

unlined is my pref. fitted waist (non elastic). something that clings when i emerge from dat surf lol .

my fave would prob be quiksilver in shorter inseams, def *surfer grade* fabrics durable comfy and oldskool styling
 
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the drawstring is essential on boardshorts...

edit: i might as well plumb this a bit more. having spent quite a lot of time in the ocean and pools, swimming surfing etc is a pretty big thing for me here's my .02:

all of my trunks (including speedos and drag suits) are synthetic performance fabrics, some with stretch some without. all are quick drying, shed sand n salt easily, and aren't inherently chappy. hard to imagine wearing new linen in the ocean seems like a recipe for rash

without something to tune the waist up the ocean will peel those trunks right off ass, believe it. no matter how snug when dry trunks will open up a bit in the water. i wouldn't buy anything with buckles i want everything to be soft so i do like a drawstring.
Yes for water... As i mentiomed the original post mentioned shorts NOT for swimming. So, just casual. iMO drawstring doesn't belong on a pair of $75 casual shorts
 

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hm, it sounded like 2-way shorts or maybe a convertible pattern...

i suppose my contribution is to say that for me trunks are typically minimalist and functional (i've had pairs with no inseam for instance the pattern is 1-piece outseamed). i'd probably go naked if i could, in truth i'm out swimming to immerse myself and escape civilization. i don't wear trunks out of the water btw typically change on the beach both ways.

so all that to say - for somebody like me - a 2-way short is probably not workable. but i also think a *drylanded* version of a minimalist, functionalist swim short is a pretty interesting idea. apres-surf concept. maybe a bit sw&d idk.
 

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"Spoke England" Have quite a good range of shorts/swims in various fabrics and fasteners with a wide range of sizing and fits, if your looking for ideas!
 

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