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Ike behar and other dress shirts

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by happydog, Aug 26, 2002.

  1. happydog

    happydog Member

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    Greetings, gentlemen (and ladies?) I have enjoyed reading this forum -- quite a bit more informative and adult than some others I've seen. I'd like to tap your collective wisdom on higher-end dress shirts. I am trying to revamp my closet, and I was looking at the selection of Ike Behar shirts at my local men's store. Does anyone have experience with these in terms of wear, overall quality, etc? I don't mind paying the price for something that is high-quality and durable (and they do seem to be nicely made), but no one I know has worn them. Thoughts on other good shirts would also be appreciated. Many thanks.
     


  2. Erickus32

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    I have bought Ralph Lauren's purple label shirts and find them very durable. Also there is Yves St-laurent rive gauche and Van Heusen. So here are a few type of shirts that i wear and find them durable, nice and i wash them instead of sending them to the dry cleaner.

    Hope this helps you a little....
     


  3. Mike C.

    Mike C. Senior member

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    I own some Ike Behar shirts, and have to say they are the finest in my collection. The fit, construction, and materials are great for the price. I find that $125 is not that much for a high end shirt, considering Borrelli's and Brioni's are in the $2-300 range. Go to your department store and try some on. Some other really nice brands equally as nice as Ike Behar are Thomas Pink, Facconable, or YSL.

    As for durability, the Ike Behar shirts I own feel pretty delicate due to the soft materials, but seem to hold up well. If your looking for shirts to be worn daily and you really want them to hold up, then i suggest something along the lines of Boss. Or the easiest way out, assuming you don't mind spending the money, is to get a bunch of shirts custom made. GQ has an article on this in the new issue.
     


  4. GQgeek

    GQgeek Senior member

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    Ike Behar makes a good dress shirt and although I don't own any, the general consensus on the brand is very positive. Certainly, they're of excellent quality for the price. Try them on and see how they fit you, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to buy a shirt from them that I liked. Most of my dress shirts are Zegna and I must say that I really like them. I especially like the really thick mother of pearl buttons heh... Aside from the buttons, the materials are of high quality and they are very well made. I also have a Lorenzini and Charvet shirt and have no complaints about either of them. I'm still waiting on a MTM Brioni shirt so I can't comment on it just yet but the ties are wonderful. And after considerable trouble, I finally found a place in Montreal that has Borrelli shirts. The store that sells them actually has Borrelli make them in Kiton's name (no clue why they don't just sell under the Borrelli name), so when I go up there this week I'm gonna get one and see what all the fuss is about [​IMG] Apparently when a shirt is hand-stitched, it conforms to your body a lot better so it gets more comfortable the more you wear it. I hate the attitude of some of the people at the store, but I've been wanting to try Borrelli for a while now so I'll have to deal with the salesman following me around like a needy dog...
     


  5. Joe G

    Joe G Senior member

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    Actually, Borrelli used to make Kiton's shirts, but no longer do. Now Kiton's shirts are made in-house. So any Borrelli-made Kiton stuff is old stock and should be deeply discounted. (Yummy.) As an aside, lasted time I looked at Kiton's shirts, they were in the US$500 range, compared to US$300ish for a Borrelli. No ready-to-wear shirt is worth that much cash to my mind. An outstanding custom, perhaps. But not off the rack. Peace, JG
     


  6. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Senior member

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    As usual, JoeG is well informed. Although I seem to recall that it was Barba, not Borrelli that used to make Kiton shirts. Being a shirt fiend myself, I would also like to mention several of my favorites (some of which have already been mentioned).

    Borrelli--everything, from the collar to the super thick buttons is exquisite.
    Attolini--great collars and fabric
    Fray--super thick buttons
    Maffeis-slim fitting and wonderful feel
    Isaia--lots of nice little details
    Belvest--a very elegant shirt
    Hilditch and Key--great MTM shirt
    Matuozzo--very hard to find, but my vote for the best shirt you can get.
    Lorenzini-machine made, but excellent

    Haven't tried the Zegna napoli line, but they look nice. Brioni (I think they're still made by a company in Bergamo) makes nice shirts as well.
     


  7. thc

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    I've never tried Ike Behar shirts, but I've seen them at Bergdorfs and Barneys, and the overall view seems to be pretty positive. In terms, of the "high-end" brands, I have experience with Turnbull & Asser and Battistoni and have no complaints. Â I really like the fit and both brands have distinctive collars that flatter my face. Of all the other shirts, I own, I get the most compliments on my shirts from John Varvatos. Â I also like my shirts from Calvin Klein Collection. I also like the look and cut of Prada shirts, despite them being severly over-priced. Finally, try Seize sur vingt (www.seizesurvingt.com). Â Their shirts are really well known here in New York.
     


  8. Stu

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    Try Charles Thrywitt. Not as highly regarded as those mentioned, but great value and a really fine shirt. You can get sea island cotton dress shirts for less than $100, which is a great deal.
     


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    Er, make that Tyrwhitt. Sorry for the typo.
     


  10. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Have to go to a meeting, but I love shirts, so here goes.
    I love some of Thracozaag's choices. Borrelli hardly even needs to be mentioned. They are par the course, although I find their patterns a little too conservative for my tastes at times. And Attolini shirts are my personal favorite. Having said that, I think that Thracozaag missed some of my favorites.

    1. Paul Smith - incredible colors. Their striped shirts are superlative, as are those of

    2. Richard James - the best of the "new" Savile Row, imho.

    3. Turnbull and Asser

    4. Charvet - I find the French look sharper than the Italian.

    5. Cerrutti 1881 - I know they are not really in the same class as Charvet or Attolini, but I find that the cut fits me very well, and they are quite a good value.

    6. For sharp-casual shirts, I really like the fit and slight stretch of Prada shirts. I know that Prada's taken a lot of flack in the forum, but

    6. For your inner dark artist, Costume National.
     


  11. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Senior member

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    All excellent shirts which I simply didn't list because I don't care too much for the English wild stripe dress shirts of T & A and Stuart. But that's just me. I saw some Richard James suits and thought they looked very sharp indeed. I haven't tried Charvet shirts, but their reputation is impeccable. I also failed to mention Luciano Barbera but I prefer his suits to his shirts.
     


  12. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I also forgot to mention Etro, which has a large variety of interesting patterns as well. They are making a lot of plaids these days, and I much prefer striped shirts (especially those crazy British ones.), but their paisleys are terrific, and their men's range has become more experimental recently.
     


  13. pstoller

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    What, no Thomas Pink or Seize sur Vingt?

    Seriously, a lot of wonderful suggestions. I haven't much to add, although I have some shirts from Dries van Noten, Moschino and Thierry Mugler that might squeak by as subversive business wear. (My favorite kind.)

    Any opinions on Ted Baker? I have some of his "Edward Baker" line French cuff shirts of which I'm rather fond, but I haven't really tested their durability.
     


  14. GQgeek

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    hrm. last time i was there, the kiton shirts were ~$400 canadian which is about the same price as brioni. It was end of season though so maybe they were on sale.

    It also said that they were the only people to carry Kiton in all of Canada. That also has changed since Harry Rosen carries it in Toronto.

    I actually stumbled on the fact that Borrelli was making the shirts for Kiton from the store's webpage, but it's out of date so i wouldn't be surprised if you were right.
     


  15. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    May I just throw my two cents of wisdom in favour of Hilditch & Key into the ring? (I don't know how easy or how difficult they are to get hold in the USA?) For all of those who like striped shirts, to my knowledge they are the only makers of mid-price ready to wear shirts, who have their patterns properly aligned (every bespoke shirt has that).

    The stripes of the yoke, continuing down the sleeves and going into the placket should be properly matched up. All other makes have only random matches. Of course the wider the stripes are apart, the more multiple the colors, the more obvious the mismatch. (Doesn't make much difference in a narrow color-on-white stripe. Particular a badly matched placket drives me nuts (I'm a fuss pot). So three cheers for Hilditch and Key as they still uphold that sign of correct craftsmanship. They also do single needle seams, while other Britisch shirts use twin needle chainstich.
     


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