If you had to start from scratch...with ~$25k...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by StreetGuy, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. Nicola

    Nicola Senior member

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    ^ You could do that, or you could spend it intelligently on eBay and B&S.

    I've bided my time expanding my wardrobe; I started almost from scratch about two years ago (while in university) and I've spent a little under $15K at this point. My closet is worth more than $80K because I got good deals by NOT rushing into Hermes and dropping 500 bucks on two ties.


    It's worth 15K or more likely less then 15K. Why would it be worth more then you paid?

    The best thing the OP can do is make a list of what he needs. Then keep an eye open for the things on the list.

    If you need this for work then you have a deadline I guess. That limits how much discount shopping you can do.

    Unless you work for free the time spent looking on Ebay etc aren't free. It's time you could be doing something else. I guess if your hobby is Ebay that's great but otherwise the time spent on Ebay is money.
     
  2. dhaller

    dhaller Senior member

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    I've had to do the "wardrobe replacement" bit myself.

    I think the best course is to first acquire the absolute necessities (things like khakis or a blazer) for the *current season*, and then acquire items - again, seasonally - as needed. Repeat for each season, and after a year you have rebuilt a foundational wardrobe.

    The peril of going out on a structured - even a very intelligently structured - shopping spree is that you wind up with some bespoke suits and wonderful shirts and ties, but you suddenly find yourself absent something to, say, play tennis in when the situation suddenly arises.

    DH
     
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    I agree with the above. Spending 25K in a week of shopping is not the best way to go. You'll spend the 25K and end up not getting something for a certain occasion. That's quite a budget for a new wardrobe.
     
  4. Svenn

    Svenn Senior member

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    At best he can make a garment that fits, which he should be able to do anyway by altering RTW clothing.
    I would never buy RTW off of ebay if I had the OP's budget, he can get several bespoke suits made in the best tailoring houses in Europe with 25k.
     
  5. Lurch

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    At the end of the day, it's all about fit and not quantity or even label...

    5 fully tailored dress shirts are worth so much more than a wardrobe full to the brim of off the peg shirts that are always a compromise.

    Likewise a fully tailored suit.

    A few things that fit you perfectly are worth their weight in gold.

    Chuck in some good shoes for measure (C&J's or EG's etc)....women dig the good shoes!
     
  6. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Boxercise Toughguy

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  7. FStyles

    FStyles Senior member

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    $25k is nothing to scoff at, but it also won't take you thaaaat far going the bespoke route IMO.

    Its kind of annoying that whenever someone posts one of these threads, tons of people automatically point to the bespoke route without any hesitation or other knowledge about this person.

    Why?

    I think the true and unalienable advantages of bespoke are only geared towards two types of people:

    1) the hard to fit (I can name a few members...)

    2) People with enough money to not have a budget set aside. ( I can also name a few here)

    (I didn't mention tailoring hobbyists because although they may get great pleasure from having a custom garment, they're most likey not achieving the full advntage unless they also identify with 1 and/or 2)

    I know I will get reamed for saying this and my opinion is somewhat worthless as I've never ventured into the bespoke world, (only MTM shirts) but jacket wise, I have a body that takes really well to some OTR 42R's and with a bit of tailor assistance, I get a product that i couldn't be more happy with even if it was specially made for me.

    On the other hand, shirt wise, I most commonly wear a size 16 but have 17" neck so it becomes a real PITA. this is where MTM is a must unless its a shirt that I'll never wear a tie with. Even then, I wouldn't see the advantage of going all out bespoke over my mtm for 5x the cost.
     
  8. Young Pro

    Young Pro Senior member

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    Here's what I would do:

    - 3 MTM/bespoke suits (navy, charcoal, mid grey) from Chan or similar - $4,500
    - 2 MTM/bespoke jackets (navy blazer, tweed) from Chan or similar - $2,400
    - 15 MTM shirts from MyTailor (Thomas Mason Silverline, etc.) - $2,250
    - 10 versatile, conservative ties (from B&S, shopthefinest, etc.) - $1,000 (at most)
    - 6 pairs of MTM trousers from Chan, MyTailor or similar - $1,800
    - 3 pairs of more casual cotton trousers (Inco, Mabitex) prob from B&S - $300 (at most)
    - 5 pairs of versatile shoes (black cap toe, brown brogue, brown loafers, brown chelsea boot, monk strap or suede pair) - $2,000
    - assorted belts (dress and casual) - $500
    - 1 charcoal cashmere overcoat - $1,000
    - 1 tan trench (Burberry or Aquascutum) - $1,000
    - 1 simple dress watch (Christopher Ward, Seiko, etc.) - $500
    - 6 solid color sweaters (3 cashmere, 3 cotton) - $1,000
    - Assorted other accessories (pocket squares, socks, cufflinks) - $500

    Grand Total: $18,750. Plenty of room left over for more casual stuff (jeans, polos, sneakers, etc.) and a nice vacation.
     
  9. Diavolo

    Diavolo Senior member

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    Excellent ideas from FStyles and Young Pro.
     
  10. brax

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    I can't seem to put my finger on it right now but there is a published article that has found its way to the web where three esteemed tailors (one in Washington, one in Chicago, and one in NYC) answer this exact question.
     
  11. GoldenTribe

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    It's worth 15K or more likely less then 15K. Why would it be worth more then you paid?

    I feel it is perfectly obvious I was talking about price paid versus retail price, so I'm not going to bother saying anything else to you.
     
  12. cimabue

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    Any fresh start is a chance to buy fewer striped things.

    Use more earth tones and colors native to your area according to the seasons.

    Learn better to integrate neutral grays. The power of gray, the gray-scale, is frequently misunderstood, as any successful portraitist or landscape painter might tell you.
     
  13. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    This may seem silly to say, but that never stops me: I would not go the bespoke route unless I really, genuinely liked the looks of that specific maker's product. Too many people put their faith in the concept rather than in the work they're actually getting. Saying "Go bespoke" is akin to suggesting "Buy Ralph Lauren." Well, hell, you could be getting anything. Even if you spend top dollar for what SF tells you is the very best, you have to like the style or you've wasted your money. If you don't know what you like, don't buy in bulk.

    I suppose my message is this: Unless money means absolutely nothing to you, cultivate your tastes before going on a $25K shopping spree. This is a question you need to answer, not us.
     
  14. chyrspchuck

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    I can't seem to put my finger on it right now but there is a published article that has found its way to the web where three esteemed tailors (one in Washington, one in Chicago, and one in NYC) answer this exact question.

    are you joking or being serious? I would love to see the article.
     
  15. Nicola

    Nicola Senior member

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    I feel it is perfectly obvious I was talking about price paid versus retail price, so I'm not going to bother saying anything else to you.

    Now if you promise I'll be happy.

    God help us retail price.
     

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