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If you do not own the following things, you are not well dressed

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. eg1

    eg1 Senior member

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    Hell yes. Have two and wear them a lot. (had a 3rd which I wore well past its usefulness and was loathe to let go)




    I have never (and I'm pushing 50) been invited to a black-tie event, and given my social circle, likely never will be.
     
  2. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Maybe your retirement party, then. I am sure you will be invited.
     
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  3. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Just wore mine last night. The metal-buttoned one that I have is a brighter blue, lightweight and unlined. I probably wear it more often than any other jacket in summer.
     
  4. Ich_Dien

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    Glad to read I make the more advanced cut.
     
  5. RDiaz

    RDiaz Senior member

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    I will probably never be well dressed going by this list. I have two cats so I tend to stay away from solid worsted wools, specially darker ones; they are a fur magnet ... flannel, glen plaid, and other busy patterns/textures do wonders hiding it, lol. Next autumn/winter is probably going to be all flannel and tweed for me [​IMG]
     
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  6. eg1

    eg1 Senior member

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    :laugh:

    :embar:

    :(
     
  7. CBrown85

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    Black tie is mostly doesn't happen in Canada.
     
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    I have a hard time believing that there would be less black tie events in, say, Toronto or Ottawa, than in Milwaukee, where I live. Mine gets use twice a year or so.

    Rob
     
  9. unbelragazzo

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    It's unfortunate, but I think it has reached a tipping point where there aren't very many black tie events, so quite a lot of people don't have a black tie rig, so many people know this and don't want to inconvenience or exclude guests by creating black tie events (or even black-tie-optional, which is almost black-tie-if-you-can-afford-it, which casts something of a pall over the proceedings), so then even fewer people have black tie, etc...I wish it weren't so, or that somehow we could make a big push to reverse the trend, but the momentum at this point is quite strong.
     
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    not if he works at a police station. in the movies those parties are never black tie.
     
  11. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    i think it greatly depends on what social circles you travel in, and what industry you are in.
     
  12. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    mid brown or tobacco is the most versatile. Tobacco differs from mid brown slightly in that it has a yellowish cast. That will go with mid gray, dark gray or navy. Really though any shade of suede will go with any shade of gray or with navy. Dark suedes with light pants tend to look better than light suedes with dark pants.
     
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  13. unbelragazzo

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    This is true - most of the lawyers and lobbyists I know do have a black tie rig. My social circles are not uber-rich aristocrats, but I think most of my friends make over 100k. Which isn't a huge huge amount, but it's well more than the median American. I don't know what percentile 100k would be, maybe 90th? Anyway, while some of them have black tie rigs, nobody would ever even dream of hosting a black tie dinner at their house, or really organizing any kind of black tie event themselves. Was it ever thus? What percent of American males in, say, 1925, would have a black tie rig? To me it seems like the number has gotten low enough that its complete disappearance is all but inevitable. But if the numbers were always this low, maybe I'm wrong.
     
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  14. gsugsu

    gsugsu Senior member

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    Much appreciated.
     
  15. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    These are rare. I have been to a few. More frequently parties than dinners and fewer of both over the years (reflecting the times and my declining popularity). Most common uses now are charity and professional events and weddings. These are not uncommon and while charity and professional events are more frequently becoming "business" or "cocktail" attire, black tie weddings seem on the uptick.
     
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    I bought a RLPL black tux and flew home with it. I can't wait to wear it, but I still need to have the buttonholes stitched on the sleeves. I know I'll need it sometime soon and I'll have to rush it to my tailor and pleas with him to get it done in time. It's inevitable.



    Isn't a Canadian tux on equal standing? :happy:
     
  17. gdl203

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    I'm in the "not gonna happen" camp for the loafers. Really, that's the only truly surprising requirement in that list. If anything, I'd venture to say that, were someone to ask me for a list of things defining the poorly dressed, loafers would come out right at the top.
     
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  18. unbelragazzo

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    Do you mind me asking what part of the country you're in and the age of the people in the weddings you're talking about? I've been to a ton of weddings in the past 5 years, probably 15 or so, none black tie. Some had grooms and groomsmen in horrific rented getups, with the high buttoning vest, etc.. But I don't think I have ever been to any occasion where even one man has been wearing correct, elegant, semi-formal evening dress. It's possible there was somebody at the one formal I went to in college, but I can't remember far back enough to know.
     
  19. Manton

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    I went to private black tie party earlier this year but, surprise surprise, it was organized through SF. Good time.
     
  20. dopey

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    NYC. I am not sure what the age of the people in the weddings has to do with anything. The black tie ones have been for both adults and twenty somethings (swidt) (and combinations). Except for middle aged people, it is usually the parents who are paying (for the black-tie ones, in particular). I am not saying they are always black-tie. Most aren't. But plenty are.
     

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