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If you do not own the following things, you are not well dressed

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    I hate the idea of the crappy, cheap, stretchy nylon inset into the nice leather. It just ruins the shoe for me.
     
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  2. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Henrdix: my wardrobe is more or less "complete" though I still get stuff from time to time but they are mostly luxuries.

    What I would say to someone who has everything on this list and wants to move forward is, the next thing to think about is seasonality. Start gettting thing specfically for the seasons.
     
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  3. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    this is true.


    im sure he will be fine. :)


    my dream. *le sigh*
     
  4. Patrologia

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    If this has been asked and answered, I apologize - the early part of the thread went by in a flurry and I may have missed something.

    Aside from wondering what exactly constitutes the non-chino khakis (I'll deal with that question another day, for the moment I'll just continue my practice of avoiding all khakis on days when I'm "in public") I have a question about the linen suit. Is that just intended as a hot weather version of the worsteds, or does it have another function. In either case, is it superior to or interchangeable with a cotton/poplin suit? If it is superior, on which grounds (comfort, formality, quality, SF approval, ability to impress the opposite sex, etc)? I've never owned either of them, know very little about them, and haven't got a formed opinion on the issue. Here to learn.
     
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  5. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Linen is better than cotton for a lot of reasons, it looks nicer, wears better, has more surface interest, etc. Another nice thing about linen is you can always wear the pieces seperately. I don't liket cotton jackets as seperates personally. The pants are fine though.
     
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    Is this simply your preference, or do you feel that linen is intrinsically "better dress" than cotton? I've resisted the clarion call of the linen suit because of the fabric's tendency to bag. While linen definitely has superior surface interest, cotton keeps a crisp line about it that I feel makes it more CBD than linen, and thus a cotton suit is more versatile than the linen equivalent.
     
  7. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Linen is more of a "dresser's" cloth than cotton but given the prevalence of cotton as a summer staple in a lot of places, cotton is probably more CBD.
     
  8. Beatlegeuse

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    I don't post in MC all that often anymore, but this thread is great. It really helped me to re-evaluate what I owned and what I was missing. I never gave it much thought, but I'm definitely missing some classic staples, and my wish list for future purchases has been revised accordingly. I don't own any black shoes, or a proper pair of standard brown dress shoes now that I think of it, which is most likely going to be my next shoe purchase....thinking along the lines of something like C&J Belgrave.
     
  9. mafoofan

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    Linen rumples and bags, but that can be a good thing. Cotton tends to look stiff and drape terribly--there is nothing redeeming in that.
     
  10. Kuro

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    Linen/wool blend FTW!
     
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    How do you guys maintain your linen suits? Frequent cleaning or do you not bother?
     
  12. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Clean only when it's dirty
     
  13. NOBD

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    I think I see what you mean. I like cotton as well, though:

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    (Shirt and tie are linen. Trousers are a cotton twill.)
     
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  14. NewYorkIslander

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    a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold Heavyweight Hopsack and Worsted Blazer Suit (with navy seersucker for next spring)
    -mid gray flannel pantsyup
    -decent, non-chino khakisyup, Officer Chinos and tons of Rivets from Epaulet which are more denim than dressy
    -at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket Got lots of tweed
    -a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit Check, mid grey Harrissons
    -a navy worsted single breasted suitCheck, aforementioned blazer suit
    -a white FC shirt don't have this, most shirts are BC
    -several blue BC shirts, at least one BDCheck
    -black stitch caps Nope, only have Black Shell LWB, which get almost no wear
    -some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you) plenty
    -loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell no loafers except for an Italian made pair of Banana Republic ones, don't really wear em
    -a solid black tie, knit or grenadine nope
    -a solid navy tie, knit or grenadinea few
    -a plain white linen hanky check
    For the "more advanced" players:
    -at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both) HATE DB suits and SC on me, so no, though my favorite overcoat is DB
    -at least one linen suit one day, maybe summer 2014
    -at least one pair of brown suede shoes check, two
    -at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check nope
    -at least one wool or cashmere tie lots
    -at least one linen or linen blend tie a handful
    If necessary
    -A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes nope
    -An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel Old school camel coat

    Not too shabby.
     
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    Thanks for the clarifications. Since I'm in academia, I don't have to go cotton because CBD is not a real requirement (OK, shoes are barely a requirement, but you get my point). Then again, I'm not "in public" for work at all during linen weather. Perhaps I should sign up for a summer class next year just to justify a linen suit.
     
  16. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    :fu:
     
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    +1. I spot iron out the worst wrinkles before each wear.

    Linen also wears much cooler than cotton.
     
  18. Kuro

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    For The Win

    I have a pair of pants that iirc are 70% wool/30% linen.

    Very cool to wear, hardly wrinkle, and are hard wearing.

    Similar in weight and appearance to Harrisons Havana bunch.
     
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    stitchy bemoaning his fate, errr, faith...
     
  20. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    lol.

    im not sure bemoaning is the right word, but i am feeling something thats for sure. :fu: really sums it up nicely.
     

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