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If you do not own the following things, you are not well dressed

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    maybe there is, but I know that I am not qualified to formulate it
     
  2. NOBD

    NOBD Senior member

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    Neither am I. Icons of Men's Style by Josh Sims might be inspiring for someone who can formulate it.
     
  3. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    you?
     
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  4. eg1

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    Did I say Chelsea or chukka? I certainly intended the latter. Either way, yes, these are 3 season shoes, but I would wear the other option I suggested (split-toes) all year round.
     
  5. thinman

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    Although I've never slavishly followed the "no navy odd trousers" dogma, I own worsted and flannel navy trousers, but wear some shade of gray much, much more often. I find that the navy trousers just don't get much use, perhaps because I wear a lot of blue and navy trousers don't offer enough contrast(?).
     
  6. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    I'm doing pretty well I suppose, especially since most of these were purchased since I started lurking here a couple of years ago. I'd like at get another tweed SC, preferably before fall. I teach a Masters-level class at a college in NYC so I guess it fits the professor look. I've never really had much use for BD shirts though. Out of approx 40 dress shirts I think I have 1 extra slim fit BB BD that I snagged at the Mr Porter sale last Jan and have worn maybe twice. I'd love to add a linen suit at some point too, especially a cigar linen: http://dieworkwear.com/post/19240786953/cigar-linen
    Fred
     
  7. deadly7

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    I wore an outfit VERY similar to this just a few weeks ago. Take out the grenadine, add in a gold/blue paisley, and solid charcoal.

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    I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned difficulty to get all the stuff on the list. Bhowie mentioned that all of the stuff on the list that he has is RTW and altered, which I imagine is the case for most people. I would be ill-pressed to even find the majority of the things on that list in my size without resorting to MTM or bespoke.

    Except loafers. I won't say never, but I can't imagine buying a pair in the next two decades. I hate those things.
     
  8. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Srsly? Like what? Name an item on that list that I couldn't find you 3 links to RTW options of within 10 minutes.
     
  9. deadly7

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    in 30x30.

    in 36 Short. Preferrably intended to be a slim cut, since taking a full-figured suit/jacket and turning it into a slim cut inevitably looks atrocious.

    I live near a NM, Off Fifth, plus all your usual mall stores (nordstrom's, macy's, etc.) and have never found them in my size.

    The shirts, ties, and pocket squares I have [or could find easily for the knit ties I don't have an interest in].
     
  10. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Slim khakis, slightly short. White buttondown. The cardigan may be red or navy. Chelseas for dress or Converse All-Stars for play. Knit tie optional.

    I've never really watched the Dick Van Dyke Show, but I suspect everything one might need to know about clothes can be found there.
     
  11. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Ah, well that's an issue of the sizing, not the items themselves. But in any case, here are some flannels in 30 (you'll have to hem them but this is true for almost any decent pants you'll buy...and they're brown, but I'm sure once fall rolls around they'll be stocking grey again):

    http://www.howardyount.com/collections/pants/products/classic-flannel-pants-brown

    same thing for BB, surely in fall they will have grey:
    http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCat...lor=BROWN&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

    PRL:
    http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/...OLO/Grey&parentPage=family&selectedColor=Grey

    likely you could go to the same three sites and get options for a 36S blazer, but you can do that yourself.
     
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  12. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Really, you could probably go to either BB or RL and get at least 90% of the items on this list. Whatever you can't find at the first one you visit, you can probably get at the other one.
     
  13. deadly7

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    Apart from BB (I hate them for reasons irrelevant to this thread), I'm genuinely impressed. I've had stores get stuff in my size, but you can imagine how cost-prohibitive that can get to be. Been to RL stores in person and they didn't have stuff my size, never thought to check HY.

    You, sir, may have damaged my next paycheck.
     
  14. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    As a service to some excellent SF members and affiliates:

    http://www.pantaclothing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1pant
    http://www.pantaclothing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2pant
    http://www.pantaclothing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3pant

    (note that 3 of the 5 pants in ed's collection right now are on Manton's list)

    I have no direct experience, but these seem to be quite popular:

    http://www.epauletshop.com/servlet/the-Mens-Clothing-cln-Trousers/Categories
     
  15. hendrix

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    It's been talked about ad nauseum in SW&D. The currently approved SW&D list would look something like this (obviously taking into account the median age, probably mid twenties, and the fact that most of these items are totally popular by virtue of groupthink):
    1 leather jacket
    1 black or dark coloured sportcoat
    1 overcoat or parka

    1 nice cardigan or crew neck sweater

    a few tshirts, usually white.

    1 pair raw denim
    1 pair black denim
    1 pair grey pants

    1 pair white sneakers (low or high)
    1 pair sleek boots (side zip, back zip or anything sleek enough to look good with slim denim)


    Honestly i don't think it's a particularly useful exercise in SW&D


    Question for Manton
    Assuming you have all of these things - and have probably accumulated many others on the journey- do you feel like you have enough and are content? Obviously just the bare minimum is not desirable, but this is clearly not a bare minimum type list.

    Moreover, do you feel like a lot of the other stuff not on this list is now somewhat superfluous and you'd be almost better off without it? Do you feel like the "journey" has been about aquiring these pillars of your wardrobe, either through trial and error or thought and planning?

    I can see that it would be quite easy to have more, say, shoes, ties and pocketsquares than are present on the list, but it seems to me to be a reasonably comprehensive list of suits and jackets
     
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  16. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    while i agree with your premise that all that stuff can be found RTW. lets not forget though, with jackets in particular, cut is a huge factor. for some people finding any SC/suit RTW that really looks right is genuinely difficult. it is for me anyways.
     
  17. unbelragazzo

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    Yea, but what I'm saying is, if you can't find these items in RTW in cuts that you like, then you just can't find jackets in cuts that you like. Everyone making jackets is going to make a navy blazer every season. Everyone making suits will make a navy and a charcoal every season. The DBs might be a different story, but they're on the advanced list.
     
  18. RDiaz

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    If he gave it to you he wouldn't be well dressed... [​IMG]
     
  19. NOBD

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    Thanks, Hendrix. That's for a three days' trip? :) I'd be interested in a more MC oriented list though. Or perhaps a list of "classic casuals"...
     
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    Great thread, thanks!
     

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